COVID Data Thread

[kaz7]

It is. But this might even be the highest we get from now on as it was the most likely day to be the high point - with catch up over Christmas (they date back weeks in the numbers today) and Tuesdays always being the biggest day of the week as it adds all the weekend registrations in too.

Think a month ago when Omicron was still an unknown quantity we would have taken cases tumbling and deaths at this kind of high point (they will almost certainly be down again tomorrow). And with hospital numbers falling too. And ventilator patients lower than in any day in November and December in January. Not shooting up into the thousands as they were this time last year.

It is better than I suspect most of us had dare hope.

I understand that , i have not counted it by day for a really long time , just more people have died , per day label doesnt matter to me , if you see what i mean

 

[Healdplace]

Of course, I do Kaz. I suspect we have all lost or know someone who has lost a loved one in this terrible two years. But we need to focus on the good things that point to this becoming less and less likely in the coming months.

Not out of the woods yet but daylight is at last flickering through the leaves ahead.

 

[Chappie]

In normal times,pre covid, we averaged 1600 deaths a day in the UK and no-one bats an eyelid because it is not highlighted by the media on a daily basis.
Surely it is now time that we stop highlighting deaths every night and concentrate on the only data that is relevant to the UK returning to normality, hospital admissions and positive cases.
This does not mean that we should not show empathy with people who have lost loved ones , but the majority of people I speak to, think that the death numbers reported by the media , have died on that date and not over the last 28 days.

 

[kaz7]

In normal times,pre covid, we averaged 1600 deaths a day in the UK and no-one bats an eyelid because it is not highlighted by the media on a daily basis.
Surely it is now time that we stop highlighting deaths every night and concentrate on the only data that is relevant to the UK returning to normality, hospital admissions and positive cases.
This does not mean that we should not show empathy with people who have lost loved ones , but the majority of people I speak to, think that the death numbers reported by the media , have died on that date and not over the last 28 days.

Because it has been a world wide pandemic and it had to be controlled and reported for public health and science reasons , it is still contageous and most of the other deaths were not , if people dont know why we get a daily figure they have been in a cave for two years !

 

[cleavers]

the majority of people I speak to, think that the death numbers reported by the media , have died on that date and not over the last 28 days.

The number "reported" each day is the number that have died in the 24 hours up to when the numbers were collated not in the "last 28 days".

The "28 days" refers to those that died, who tested positive in the previous 28 days.

 

[Healdplace]

I do not fully understand how all the totting up in England is done. But....

The England hospital number reported every day here comes from all over the place and not just the day before. There were only 17 of the 294 total today that actually died on 10 Jan - yesterday.

And 71 from 9 Jan. And 69 from Jan 8. Deaths added today went back well before Christmas over multiple days.

That is why I do the table every few days showing the total at 5 days in England hospital numbers - as after 5 days of cases being added onto a date it is largely stable though will still add extra ones to that date over coming weeks or months from time to time. It is not that rare for deaths from months ago to be added. Though these are sometimes discounted as having been double counted after checking.

Yesterday on Gov UK shows 49 recorded for date of death 10 Jan. It will grow as more are added. 9 Jan is shown as 117 and 8 Jan as 124.

6 Jan is shown as 165. There were 160 reported from England hospitals on 7 Jan ascribed to the day before. There will have been some added from out of hospital and maybe sone discounted.

It is quite complicated. Hence why the media just announce the added up hospital number in the afternoon and or the Gov UK total later. Neither are likely the 'real' number that died on the day. But the 17 from yesterday will be over 100 probably in 5 days time when more extra deaths reported from that date are added in over the next few days hospital death numbers.

Nobody would follow all this if expalined by the media - I get confused and have been doing it for 2 years. No wonder they just post the number given on the day with lots of past days added up. They are rarely miles apart from the 'real' number.

 

[Healdplace]

Today's North West cases total is the lowest in 16 days. Down over 5000 on the day and down nearly 14,000 on last Tuesday! But everywhere is well down and NW still top scorer today.

The Greater Manchester numbers are massively down too as you might expect.

Yorkshire was less than 200 behind NW today. It is rising fast in the rankings but the gap was over 4000 yesterday. Combine North East with Yorkshire as the NHS does and the total is over 7000 ahead of the NW.

Combining the two Midlands regions would put them 4000 ahead of the North West today too.

Zoe has had these regions going in opposite directions for a day or two as I posted this lunch time. So this is nt a surprise.

Both these regions also ADDED patients today into the England hospital numbers when everyone else - North West included - FELL. So this all fits together.

 

[Chappie]

The number "reported" each day is the number that have died in the 24 hours up to when the numbers were collated not in the "last 28 days".

The "28 days" refers to those that died, who tested positive in the previous 28 days.

That is not correct,please see Heald places reply just above.

 

[Healdplace]

ENGLAND HOSPITAL DATA TODAY

Surprisingly good day. Not fallen on a Tuesday in a while.


ADMISSIONS (Sunday - always 48 hours behind)

1975 - was 1881 last week & 1374 the week before


London 277 v 347 last week & 374 wk before - falling weekly

Midlands 424 v 371 last week & 251 wk before - rising weekly

NE & Yorkshire 365 v 316 last week & 157 wk before - rising weekly

AND

North West 362 v 362 last week & 213 wk before - flat after rising



PATIENTS - DOWN 181 FROM 17,120 TO 16,939


Last week the equivalent was 14,210 going UP 834 TO 15,044


Regionally

East DOWN 30 to 1467, London DOWN 104 to 3826, Midlands UP 10 to 3155, NE & Yorkshire UP 34 to 2792, South EastDOWN 23 to 1649 and South West UP 9 to 921.

So Midlands and Yorkshire rising and London falling.


NORTH WEST also FELL today by 77 - to 3129 - back below the Midlands.



On ventilators there was a FALL today of 21 from 707 TO 686. Lowest in three months

Last week there was a rise of 20 to 797 - so it is 111 down on last Tuesday - the biggest weekly fall in ages


NW comes off less well in this.


East down 4 to 72, London down 6 to 219, Midlands down 4 to 101, NE & Yorkshire down 6 to 85, South East up 2 to 75 and South West down 7 to 37

Unfortunately NORTH WEST is UP again by 4 from 93 TO 97.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

In normal times,pre covid, we averaged 1600 deaths a day in the UK and no-one bats an eyelid because it is not highlighted by the media on a daily basis.
Surely it is now time that we stop highlighting deaths every night and concentrate on the only data that is relevant to the UK returning to normality, hospital admissions and positive cases.
This does not mean that we should not show empathy with people who have lost loved ones , but the majority of people I speak to, think that the death numbers reported by the media , have died on that date and not over the last 28 days.

They should take it off the news now or just once a week. It’s an easy story for the Journalists but it’s too much now.