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Craig Bellamy
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GStar
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moomba said:GStar said:It wouldn't be the first one, i doubt it'll be the last ;)
Well I would hope with the resources we have that we have a squad full of mildly irritating twats in future, not full blown arseholes like Bellamy.
And in the long run getting few players of that ilk in to do a job may mean we can have that squad you describe in the long term.
GStar said:And in the long run getting few players of that ilk in to do a job may mean we can have that squad you describe in the long term.
Don't know how you've worked that out.
If you want to move away from having a team full of twats, you're first step isn't to buy the biggest twat in town.
GStar
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moomba said:GStar said:And in the long run getting few players of that ilk in to do a job may mean we can have that squad you describe in the long term.
Don't know how you've worked that out.
If you want to move away from having a team full of twats, you're first step isn't to buy the biggest twat in town.
Ok, you keep saying that but other than a few paper stories, im not sure he's actually been convicted of anything unlawfull.
So the guys a bit of a hot head, lets buy a team full of Benjani's that never question the manager but then never give the extra 5-10% and stroll through derby matches with a big smile on thier face whilst achieving precisely nothing - but at elast they're guys you could have a safe drink with down the pub!?
It's pretty easy to see how i've come to my conclusions from my posts already in this thread. We get a few players in, who may or may not be (in your words) "complete cunts" but because they have qualities we lack/Premiership experience/experience of our manager they will do a job for us, get us into a better position and make us a more attractive and viable option for the superstars everyone seemingly craves... or the nice guys, whichever suits.
GStar said:Ok, you keep saying that but other than a few paper stories, im not sure he's actually been convicted of anything unlawfull.
Don't care about convictions. You can be a twat without doing anything illegal.
So the guys a bit of a hot head, lets buy a team full of Benjani's that never question the manager but then never give the extra 5-10% and stroll through derby matches with a big smile on thier face whilst achieving precisely nothing - but at elast they're guys you could have a safe drink with down the pub!?
Why is it a choice of the two?
It's pretty easy to see how i've come to my conclusions from my posts already in this thread. We get a few players in, who may or may not be (in your words) "complete *****" but because they have qualities we lack/Premiership experience/experience of our manager they will do a job for us, get us into a better position and make us a more attractive and viable option for the superstars everyone seemingly craves... or the nice guys, whichever suits.
He doesn't have those qualities. West Ham are in a similar position to us. They do better when he is out of the side than in.
People seem to have come to the conclusion that nice guys = bad footballers, twats = good footballers. It just isn't the case.
And people seem not to bother what a player does so long as he is capable of kicking a ball for their team. I wonder how many hypocrites we have on here that have slagged the behaviour of the rags, and the likes of John Terry but have their tongues hanging out ready to lick the arse of someone that is worse than any of them.
spacecadet
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We need a fighter!! But to be honest I think he's a horrible bastard. But better than we have up front.
spacecadet said:But better than we have up front.
Exactly what was said about Benjani in January last year on this message board. Worked out well that didn't it?
spacecadet
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I didn't say that -did I ?moomba said:spacecadet said:But better than we have up front.
Exactly what was said about Benjani in January last year on this message board. Worked out well that didn't it?
spacecadet said:I didn't say that -did I ?
I'm not sure. Does it matter?
GStar
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We're football fans mate, if a player is doing well for our team, liklehood is, we'll support them!
I shouldn't be asked to choose between nice guy or good footballer, because, when it comes to football, an results driven entertainment business, the magority will choose a player who does the business on the pitch, not the player who goes to church and helps the most old ladies across the road... its sad but its true.
its not at all a case of nice guy = bad footballer but you've come to the opinion of "He's a twat" and that seems to be the main sticking point as to why you dont want him.
And you're saying the qualities i mentioned (Prem Experience/Experience of Hughes/Qualities our strikers don't have) are wrong? As far as i'm aware he's spent all of his career in the UK, has played for Hughes at B'burn and is the only striker, if we were to purchase him, that would make runs in behind the defense, would use his pace to his advantage and could also use the channels out wide. So, imo, he has all the "qualities" i mentioned earlier.
If you think he's average - fine, i'm not here to argue that point, it's your opinion and i don't have any reason to change it. But, for me, being an idiot comes second to doing the business on the pitch, if he does i'll support him, if he doesn't ill concentrate my support on the team.
But, i wont loose any sleep if we dont sign him, he's hopefully one of a long number of players we're looking at that can come and help us out in the second half of the season. Regardless of thier persona off the field, if they can do a job, i'll welcome them to our club.
I shouldn't be asked to choose between nice guy or good footballer, because, when it comes to football, an results driven entertainment business, the magority will choose a player who does the business on the pitch, not the player who goes to church and helps the most old ladies across the road... its sad but its true.
its not at all a case of nice guy = bad footballer but you've come to the opinion of "He's a twat" and that seems to be the main sticking point as to why you dont want him.
And you're saying the qualities i mentioned (Prem Experience/Experience of Hughes/Qualities our strikers don't have) are wrong? As far as i'm aware he's spent all of his career in the UK, has played for Hughes at B'burn and is the only striker, if we were to purchase him, that would make runs in behind the defense, would use his pace to his advantage and could also use the channels out wide. So, imo, he has all the "qualities" i mentioned earlier.
If you think he's average - fine, i'm not here to argue that point, it's your opinion and i don't have any reason to change it. But, for me, being an idiot comes second to doing the business on the pitch, if he does i'll support him, if he doesn't ill concentrate my support on the team.
But, i wont loose any sleep if we dont sign him, he's hopefully one of a long number of players we're looking at that can come and help us out in the second half of the season. Regardless of thier persona off the field, if they can do a job, i'll welcome them to our club.