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the blue panther said:
If they don't lose a wicket, it'll be about 125/130 at lunch. I know the ball is 32 overs old, but, they'll be nervous and careful. If the openers stay in, great. If not, it could be even slower.
Getting through the 1st hour is crucial because the bowlers will tire today and the Indians will fret if they can't get a wicket. The fielding will go to pot as well as the day progresses.
So, all in all, we'll lose by 150 runs.
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Hate to say it but my prediction was pretty accurate as we lost by 157, not 150.
The game was there for the taking at one point but the Indians rose to the occasion brilliantly.
I don't feel for Root as he's got no back bone, imho. His team is similar. I know he has a decent record but quite how it's as good as it is, I don't know.
He should have gone in at 3 today - him, and the management should know that the left arm spinner, Jadeja, is the biggest threat to the left handed batsman, of which we have 3. Burns is the first, and he did well, but, when he was out, why expose another left hander in Mallan to unnecessary pressure of facing the extra threat from Jadeja? Why expose him at that point? Plus, if the Captain had come out early, what a signal THAT could have been.
The last left hander is Anderson, and when it's time for him to bat, it no longer matters. Mallan should have dropped down a couple of places if necessary - it's no biggie, and would have been a clever step to take and, if Root had come in at 3, we'd have had a well set right handed Hameed and Root to negate Jadeja's threat. This may have exerted more pressure on their seamers - we'll never know. But, I'll never accept that this wasn't worth a try.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
Are there that many other seam bowlers to choose from? Currans come and go, Wood can't play two in a row, Archer/Stokes are out, Woakes is only recently fit. Overton+Robinson+2 starts becoming difficult - Mahmood? But he looks to have got injured this week.
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I was thinking more of younger players and outside of the known and players who weren’t injured. I mean Robinson has come in but he’s 27, and Overton, 27 too, has been in and out for years now. Not sure what happened to the youngsters like Barber and Garton.

The feeling after the last tour Down Under was that England needed pace, but it still seems to be much of a muchness.
 
ancoats said:
the damage has gone to far in test cricket in england and its dead
its now time to build a test team without white ball cricketers in the squad..
forget ODI cricket from crossing over into test cricket its not working. now is the time for england and the ECB to get a jump on the rest and build a test team only. county cricket is full of good players and great with red ball

let be honest here india and the rest right of the test teams are also poor at test cricket ? but are better far far better than england.. this is why if you build a test team it will be the jump start test cricket needs in england and in the world of cricket
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County cricket is full of good players?? Well come on name them? From what I see anyone who shows anything resembling a bit of form or promise gets a shot at it. Sibley Crawley Lawrence etc.

Jimmy Anderson I'd guess gets his wickets for Lancs at under 10s when he plays for them which underlines the lack of quality.

I actually agree with you about test cricket being dead in the old style. We just don't produce players like that anymore the 20-20 rewards are too big so that's where the up and coming talent obviously want to be involved.
 
the blue panther said:
Hate to say it but my prediction was pretty accurate as we lost by 157, not 150.
The game was there for the taking at one point but the Indians rose to the occasion brilliantly.
I don't feel for Root as he's got no back bone, imho. His team is similar. I know he has a decent record but quite how it's as good as it is, I don't know.
He should have gone in at 3 today - him, and the management should know that the left arm spinner, Jadeja, is the biggest threat to the left handed batsman, of which we have 3. Burns is the first, and he did well, but, when he was out, why expose another left hander in Mallan to unnecessary pressure of facing the extra threat from Jadeja? Why expose him at that point? Plus, if the Captain had come out early, what a signal THAT could have been.
The last left hander is Anderson, and when it's time for him to bat, it no longer matters. Mallan should have dropped down a couple of places if necessary - it's no biggie, and would have been a clever step to take and, if Root had come in at 3, we'd have had a well set right handed Hameed and Root to negate Jadeja's threat. This may have exerted more pressure on their seamers - we'll never know. But, I'll never accept that this wasn't worth a try.
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Decent point about Jadeja.
And Moeen too.
 
Gabriel said:
I was thinking more of younger players and outside of the known and players who weren’t injured. I mean Robinson has come in but he’s 27, and Overton, 27 too, has been in and out for years now. Not sure what happened to the youngsters like Barber and Garton.

The feeling after the last tour Down Under was that England needed pace, but it still seems to be much of a muchness.
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Cheers for that - I'm out of touch with county cricket, and we haven't had many new coming in.
 
the blue panther said:
Sorry yes, I forgot about Moeen. He was no asset in this match was he.
Vice Captain? With Root in command it's a bit like Captain Mainwaring and Sgt Wilson at the helm.
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Difficult to know given Root is so undemonstrative - whether he listens to anyone else or has preset plans isn't obvious to me. Moeen as V-C seems a bit odd though, again a limited choice - he may well be Wilson though and has just given up!
 
One of the big issues atm for me is the lack of a genuine all rounder e.g. Stokes.
Therefore the line up is unbalanced.
The bowling attack albeit good is too similar at present and lacks a quality spinner.
And then there’s the opening spots ho hum.
 
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