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Swann’s last Test was in December 2013, and I’d argue that England have been toying with the idea of spinners ever since. If Old Trafford shows signs of turning, Kohli could play both Jadeja and Ashwin, which would show up England’s paucity even more.

Just read that England haven’t lost both home series in a summer for 35 years.

the spinner has to play every test even if he's a sitting duck at batting his game comes into play later on in the test
even if its a batting wicket you rest your bowlers at one end and spin the other end ? its something different to face and the batter needs to work out
 
then why bother with test cricket then ?
test cricket should be the top of the tree and the pride of place being pick to play test cricket for your country
until we get test cricket sorted out once and for all or we lose it for good ? its that easy to say to the players

can test cricket change or live alongside ODI white ball cricket i don't think it can sadly
i would love somebody from the old school test cricket come out and try and get something going to get test cricket going in the right direction.. a boycott or botham saying to the ECB right enough is enough ? back test cricket now or face losing it for good ? its clearly broken and work needs doing to rebuild
That’s what most players think now.

I love test cricket and tolerate other formats. It’s too long for modern society and as a result, sponsorships are much lower.

There‘s not much scope for sponsored strategic timeouts.

”Today‘s lunch break is brought to you by Horse and Hound magazine” etc

The away ashes tour is probably longer than the whole IPL. Look at the difference in potential earnings of the two.

We have to look at the Indian national model. They are successful in both forms of the game.

Problem is is that counties need money and 4 day games get no crowds.
 
I keep saying it you have to have red ball cricket in the summer Mon -Thurs.The hundred,Blast and one day cup on Fri,Sat and Sun.
Spot on. The majority of domestic red ball cricket is played in April and May often in conditions alien to any test arena. They began again last week with the conclusion running through September as the days get shorter. High summer is broken down into different 'windows ' for the white ball formats.

Heard it mentioned on TMS that Worcester went 18 days without a fixture in August I presume because they got knocked out early in all one day stuff. Like you suggest run them concurrently.

I'm sure it will all get sorted in the next post ashes Root and branch review.....
 
the spinner has to play every test even if he's a sitting duck at batting his game comes into play later on in the test
even if its a batting wicket you rest your bowlers at one end and spin the other end ? its something different to face and the batter needs to work out
Agree. I pointed out earlier that Ali couldn’t even deliver a maiden. I like Ali and think he’s been treated poorly over the years. It was him and only him that was prepared to go up and down the order when he was averaging 50 playing at 4, but he’s 34 now and shouldn’t be going on tour as a strike spinner.
 
That’s what most players think now.

I love test cricket and tolerate other formats. It’s too long for modern society and as a result, sponsorships are much lower.

There‘s not much scope for sponsored strategic timeouts.

”Today‘s lunch break is brought to you by Horse and Hound magazine” etc

The away ashes tour is probably longer than the whole IPL. Look at the difference in potential earnings of the two.

We have to look at the Indian national model. They are successful in both forms of the game.

Problem is is that counties need money and 4 day games get no crowds.
This is a good point and it’s a crying shame.

England do well for Test crowds but who else? India, Aus, maybe Pakistan but is that it?

Test cricket is dying and the governing bodies need to sacrifice money to save it imo.
 
Spot on. The majority of domestic red ball cricket is played in April and May often in conditions alien to any test arena. They began again last week with the conclusion running through September as the days get shorter. High summer is broken down into different 'windows ' for the white ball formats.

Heard it mentioned on TMS that Worcester went 18 days without a fixture in August I presume because they got knocked out early in all one day stuff. Like you suggest run them concurrently.

I'm sure it will all get sorted in the next post ashes Root and branch review.....
Lanky didn't play fro 12th to 26th, but the majority of players were playing for a number of other teams in different comps or at least in their squads.

1st Class cricket with 10 first teamers out is a farce, as was the list A cup.
 
Hate to say it but my prediction was pretty accurate as we lost by 157, not 150.
The game was there for the taking at one point but the Indians rose to the occasion brilliantly.
I don't feel for Root as he's got no back bone, imho. His team is similar. I know he has a decent record but quite how it's as good as it is, I don't know.
He should have gone in at 3 today - him, and the management should know that the left arm spinner, Jadeja, is the biggest threat to the left handed batsman, of which we have 3. Burns is the first, and he did well, but, when he was out, why expose another left hander in Mallan to unnecessary pressure of facing the extra threat from Jadeja? Why expose him at that point? Plus, if the Captain had come out early, what a signal THAT could have been.
The last left hander is Anderson, and when it's time for him to bat, it no longer matters. Mallan should have dropped down a couple of places if necessary - it's no biggie, and would have been a clever step to take and, if Root had come in at 3, we'd have had a well set right handed Hameed and Root to negate Jadeja's threat. This may have exerted more pressure on their seamers - we'll never know. But, I'll never accept that this wasn't worth a try.
Yes, good post. England started off slowly and carried on that way. It was possible as you say to try a counter attack either through Bairstow or even Woakes for half an hour just to put India on the back foot for a bit. Then you've got (in theory at least ) plenty of batting still to come
 
you can have the best bowlers in the world but your batting line up will let you down

simple rule is get runs on the board and play scoreboard cricket ? pressure of a good score on the board buts the fear of god into england and we fold like a pack of cards
you can have the best bowlers in the world but your batting line up will let you down

simple rule is get runs on the board and play scoreboard cricket ? pressure of a good score on the board buts the fear of god into england and we fold like a pack of cards
Yes I agree Ancoats.
I don’t think the openers are good enough and we are solely missing Stokes too.
Can I add in a top class spinner too ?
 
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