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So Warner has just dropped half the team and management in it with his press conference and later statement. Gonna be explosive when he's allowed to say what he wanted to. Reckon his autobiography will be being written right now to be released in 12 months.
He is like the school bully who has finally got his come-uppance.

As previously stated it is his answers to certain questions that make the whole affair ten times worse.
  1. Was anybody else involved - "I take full responsibility for my actions".
  2. Has this happened before - "I take full responsibility for my actions the other day".
He has past history of throwing his weight around both on and off the field of play, I for one have absolutely no sympathy for him whatsoever.

The Australian cricket team, coaches and management should be hanging their collective heads in shame because as we all suspected this incident was just the tip of the iceberg.
 
Whilst I have never particularly liked Warner, I am struggling to see why he’s being painted as the major antagonist here.

The odds of (a) this being an isolated incident and (b) only three players being involved are extremely low.
 
Whilst I have never particularly liked Warner, I am struggling to see why he’s being painted as the major antagonist here.

The odds of (a) this being an isolated incident and (b) only three players being involved are extremely low.
I think it is because he is generally despised by most other cricketers and is an odious person.
 
That kookaburra cricket ball is one the problems when England go away Because to take 20 wickets you need a top spinner or an out an out fast bowler.

Why all the other countries don’t use the duke I don’t know.
 
He is like the school bully who has finally got his come-uppance.

As previously stated it is his answers to certain questions that make the whole affair ten times worse.
  1. Was anybody else involved - "I take full responsibility for my actions".
  2. Has this happened before - "I take full responsibility for my actions the other day".
He has past history of throwing his weight around both on and off the field of play, I for one have absolutely no sympathy for him whatsoever.

The Australian cricket team, coaches and management should be hanging their collective heads in shame because as we all suspected this incident was just the tip of the iceberg.

Those quotes alone don't do it justice. He was dying to tell the truth and the long pause before answering his repeated statements said it all. Australia have tried to brush this under the carpet by punishing those three so severely but there's a long way to go with this one.
 
Agreed completely. The bigger problem for cricket is why they felt they needed to do it in the first place. They were playing at Newlands which is a beautiful venue but the last Test that England played there yielded about 1500 runs for about 15 wickets. That's the bigger problem for cricket. If players want to rough the ball up a bit (even though foreign objects is a step too far), the umpires shouldn't be warning them every 10 minutes. If not, you've either got to introduce the new ball a lot sooner (e.g. after 60 overs) because overs 30-80 are normally a batting paradise and games that don't provide a fair contest between bat and ball are far more responsible for people losing interest in cricket than any ball tampering is.

To elaborate this for others; the Kookaburra ball has huge limitations outside of the shorter forms of the game, especially when you combine it with hotter climates. As has been said above after the 30th over the game changes to a very batter friendly one as so the ball transforms into a tennis ball and the flat, dry creases help too. As long as you bat in an ultra risk averse fashion there's no way you can get out. No wickets makes the game boring. Big scores become repetitive. Despite the big scores these games are more akin to a 0-0 in football matches than realised, where neither team can score. So you HAVE to do what it takes sometimes to get the breakthrough. Unfortunately some teams lose sense and do what the Aussies did. Considering how little reverse swing this ball normally gets, a sensible solution would be to change the ball more frequently. This might give the game more of a (slightly) frantic ODI vibe than anything, but it would be a step up on the current system.

The NZ-Eng series has been great and that's because the cooler conditions make for a much more bowler friendly game and that's really the way to go. Only the highest quality batting has been rewarded and that's what you want to see.
That kookaburra cricket ball is one the problems when England go away Because to take 20 wickets you need a top spinner or an out an out fast bowler.

Why all the other countries don’t use the duke I don’t know.

1) Considering where both balls are made and the manufacturing processes involved, it's probably much cheaper for countries to use the Kookaburra. (Although if you want to buy either of them yourself the price would be similar I'd imagine)

2) Duke balls are tailor made for English conditions. The leather used is treated for as such so in the in places like Australia the balls become worn out extremely quickly.
 
To elaborate this for others; the Kookaburra ball has huge limitations outside of the shorter forms of the game, especially when you combine it with hotter climates. As has been said above after the 30th over the game changes to a very batter friendly one as so the ball transforms into a tennis ball and the flat, dry creases help too. As long as you bat in an ultra risk averse fashion there's no way you can get out. No wickets makes the game boring. Big scores become repetitive. Despite the big scores these games are more akin to a 0-0 in football matches than realised, where neither team can score. So you HAVE to do what it takes sometimes to get the breakthrough. Unfortunately some teams lose sense and do what the Aussies did. Considering how little reverse swing this ball normally gets, a sensible solution would be to change the ball more frequently. This might give the game more of a (slightly) frantic ODI vibe than anything, but it would be a step up on the current system.

The NZ-Eng series has been great and that's because the cooler conditions make for a much more bowler friendly game and that's really the way to go. Only the highest quality batting has been rewarded and that's what you want to see.


1) Considering where both balls are made and the manufacturing processes involved, it's probably much cheaper for countries to use the Kookaburra. (Although if you want to buy either of them yourself the price would be similar I'd imagine)

2) Duke balls are tailor made for English conditions. The leather used is treated for as such so in the in places like Australia the balls become worn out extremely quickly.

I agree about changing the ball more often in test match cricket that be a positive move, changing it every 60 overs would be ideal.
 
I agree about changing the ball more often in test match cricket that be a positive move, changing it every 60 overs would be ideal.
Only with the Kookaburra though. With the Duke you get reverse swing after 60 overs and the SG rarely loses spin.
But I guess with the prevalence of the Kookaburras then yeah as FM said 60 overs would work as a new change point
 
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