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Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by neel, 11 May 2019.
Must be another fine South African batsman we can lay claim to?
Who is out there in the county game worthy of inclusion then? What do the ECB do? It is dying worldwide is my point. I love test cricket more than any other format but we live in a world that loves fast paced sport and money making. Elsewhere there seems to be a struggle to get test worthy players. A lot of recent test matches have been done in 3-4 days due to so much shorter format cricket. Most of England's issues have been players being incapable of leaving good balls and playing decent defensive strokes because they aren't practicing them in shorter formats.
Cook was still the best opening batsman. His average dropped but we have failed to get anyone else to come in and nail that position and again, few in county cricket are excelling. Roy will no doubt be the next call due to Vince still being such a wonderfully frustrating cricketer. Bowling is fine at the moment and talent emerging. Decent spinners around but untested at higher level. You can query decision making when they get thrown in on flat pitches in oz with a series lost.
Away from home the squad should be more varied. Same old struggles seem to repeat. Not having a go at you but what are the solutions? I am puzzled as to why your stance on a world cup win is to immediately feel disappointed about the test team?
Not that it bothers me but their best bowler in the final is from Zimbabwe, also they had Sodhi and munro in their squad who were born in India and South Africa.
Tbf from what I've seen New Zealand have been very graceful, it's the Aussies and Indian fans who are being bitters.
I disagree, we were the better team. Warne is just bitter.
It was said that we had the better team before a ball had been bowled.
The game was tied. The super over was tied. We won on boundaries hit.
If we had a better team than them going in to the match, yet tied, then it stands to reason that New Zealand were the better performing team on the day, which is what Warne is eluding to.
If it hadn't been a fluke catch by Boult when he was distracted to look the wrong way by his sunglasses falling and a freak deflection off the bat of Stokes diving in to make his ground and getting a bonus 4 runs (subsequently incorrectly adding 4 instead of 3 runs to the total), then I guess They were the better team as they would have won without the major factor that they didn't have on their side; luck.
the thing is you don't know till you try, and giving somebody the chance is key and not just a couple of test on tour to prove yourself, you need time to find your feet and get to know how to play the better bowlers, i would look at youth and pick 4 or 5 and then give them 2 years in and around the test team and sometimes people play better under pressure, india do it a lot with there youth they get them in early and let them get the feel of test cricket
england and the ECB don't like change and once somebody does well in test cricket its their places for good and pick up a central contract and that's it, nobody else gets the chance and that is why players like cook are over used because of the central contract
I've favoured a similar idea for batsmen for a while now - if you're picking someone to try out as opener or no. 3, tell them, and tell everyone that they're in for the series, not just match by match. Then they know that an error isn't the end of the world, and the media can be told to shut up when they get on the player's case.
your spot on
give a player a chance to find his feet ? and no 2 pitches are the same and it could be a sunny day or cloudy and swing around corners, i would like to see a new player or 2 given the chance and even if it meant losing a couple of test before the main ashes series, but its to late now and we will go with the ODI opening pair with roy and bairstow
That's what I took from Warne as well......
The way they won was a bit like of United's (rare) wins