CSKA Post Match Thread

kippaxblue76 said:
moomba said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Anybody want to challenge my belief from a few weeks ago that Pellegrini has taken us as far as he can?
I think he needs to develop a bit more pragmatism at times.


Exactly. Same old same old.

I think he can take us further. I think he should go to Aguero alone up top. And Silva playing the floating role. No point to play 2 strikers if they don't work well with each other. Dzeko may not like it but he's best utilized as a supersub. I think when Sami gets back we'll play more of a 4-4-1-1/4-2-3-1. The question is can he figure out this Yaya situation. especially with Lampard going down. Id rather see the Fern brothers in the XI at the weekend. Give Yaya the Joe Hart treatment. If he wants to play, he'll pick it up. if not we can move on. He's an amazing talent but his legs look 5 years heavier than they did last year when he couldn't stop scoring.

I'm starting to worry a little about mangala as well. I think he and Fernando will really find their own in the next few months. Much like Fernandinho last year.
 
Again it was so fucking predictable, even if they did get a dodgy pen, you could sense they were going to equalize.

We do this so often in assuming a game is over and sitting back when we just aren't capable of shutting up shop. In the Prem we can generally get away with it but it's not going to happen in Europe.

Bag of bollocks.
 
shemnel said:
i think if people are blaming the ref and the penalty decision for the reason we ended up drawing should really learn how to watch football matches. We f*cked it up, City f*cked it up, it was fairly straight forward panic and sloppiness, some very similar mistakes to the Tottenham game actually with poor passes in our own third.

anyway, not pouring too much scorn on the team, just should have seen it out

There is a lot of truth in that. You could say the ball should never have got near the penalty area for the penalty, you could say Edin should have scored before the penalty that wasn't given to us. You could say a lot of things but just as the players should do their job, the referee should do his. These shite decisions do matter and they are stacking up against us in this competition.
 
Look at how amazing we made Roma look and look at how ordinary Bayern are making them look in their back yard. Light years behind.
 
It's all looking abit 2012/13 isn't it

Crashing out of Europe at the first stage

Off the pace in the league from an early stage

We're a new manager and 2 World Class players away from doing it in Europe

Pep, Pogba and Reus in summer for me, pay whatever it takes
 
Just had a text from a mate calling us flat track bullies, can't really argue tbh
 
dobobobo said:
Pigeonho said:
dobobobo said:
About what?

Stuff that aint on topic.
You need to open your eyes. It is on topic. I created a thread in astonishment at posters calling for pellegrini's head. Thst thread was in the process of being merged, unknown to us at the time, and ended up looking like Man City X had created it, with my original post deleted, so no one knew what the fuck was going on. Then I saw my OP here, hence the 'ahhhh Thats what happened to my thread'. So you see, it is on topic.
 
It was like our distinctly ordinary 2nd half performance in Moscow this time last year when we almost contrived to throw a win away with an insipid 2nd half show, just like today in fact so we learnt zip all from last year.
Last 15 minutes were poor, misplaced passes putting ourselves under pressure against a team who put us under zip all pressure doing the 95 minutes.
2nd half up front was poor, we started sloppy and carried on that way plus we had 1 shot on target in the 2nd half? Dzeko should have been off earlier and Jovetic on earlier, his pace and creativity plus ability to hang onto the ball and bring others into play are a big advantage in Europe.
Still, Samir will be back soon and we have missed him in Europe.
 
At some stage the management are going to have to look at what's going wrong in the Champions League and set about finding some solutions. It's clear that the majority of fans aren't arsed about the competition as such, and I include myself in that list, but the club and the owners most definitely are. Whatever we think about the corruption that seems to influence every aspect of the CL that performance in the second half was excruciating to watch and embarrassing. All the bent refs in Europe should not have been able to prevent us winning that match and everyone at the club should know that and address the problem.
 
as pathetic as we were in the second half the result doesn't change an awful lot.
we were always going to need to get a result in Rome.
 
The biggest difference between the CL and the PL is that the opponents ruthlessly expose your weaknesses. In the PL we can stroll past the majority of teams with our players giving only 75% as long as one of our key players gives 100%. However, the CL is a different kettle of fish.

We need to stop playing players out of position and pick a team based on who is best suited to the specific role rather than how big a name they are. Unfortunately that means that some of the 'bigger names' are going to miss out but it is crucial if we are to fulfil our potential.

Silva is not a wide midfielder, he plays his best football just behind the striker in the number 10 role. This is the only position Yaya can play without being a liability in the defensive side of the game. Pellegrini needs to choose which one of them he prefers in Europe because we cannot successfully use both of them at the same time.

We need wide midfielders who will track back and get forward something which Silva does not do.

We need centre midfielders who can keep possession, close down opponents and win the ball. Yaya may be a master at keeping the ball at times but he does not defend.

A midfield duo of Fern and Nando with Silva just in front is much better suited to the CL.

Also a wide midfielder who can beat a man and deliver a cross must be our priority in the summer. Unfortunately the man who was perfect for the role has joined United but someone in the same mould in a must.
 

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