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CSKA Post Match Thread
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IcriedwhenTueartleft said:Still, Samir will be back soon and we have missed him in Europe.
Won't help people calling him games though.
Nasri doesn't give the ball away like each one of those suckers that played tonight did.
Lavinda Past
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KnaresboroughBlue said:Prestwich_Blue said:Anybody want to challenge my belief from a few weeks ago that Pellegrini has taken us as far as he can?
No. I agree.
A few weeks ago...?
I told everyone last season that he wasn't good enough, and was shouted down because he was the 'messiah' to 95% of the sycophants posting on here.
Pellegrini will definitely be gone before next season.
He is a failure in Europe. Not good enough for City. Mansour knows it. Ferrano and Beerstain know it. Even Pellegrini knows it. He should do us all a favour and fuck off now.
BillyShears
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Awful officiating. You just can't get away from it. It effected the result whether we like it or not.
As to the tactics, I think if you watched the first half then you know the level they can play at. You can't legislate for every one of our attacking four/five players being very very poor collectively and individually in the second half.
I said before the game it was a must win. We haven't. What that says about Pellegrini, it's difficult to say. I think it's almost impossible that he'll be sacked next summer but he'll be acutely aware of how important the CL is and this is his second shot at it and we haven't looked any better.
We need to dust ourselves down because we go to West Ham this weekend and in the weekly narrative that's just become a big game.
As to the tactics, I think if you watched the first half then you know the level they can play at. You can't legislate for every one of our attacking four/five players being very very poor collectively and individually in the second half.
I said before the game it was a must win. We haven't. What that says about Pellegrini, it's difficult to say. I think it's almost impossible that he'll be sacked next summer but he'll be acutely aware of how important the CL is and this is his second shot at it and we haven't looked any better.
We need to dust ourselves down because we go to West Ham this weekend and in the weekly narrative that's just become a big game.
Pigeonho said:You need to open your eyes. It is on topic. I created a thread in astonishment at posters calling for pellegrini's head. Thst thread was in the process of being merged, unknown to us at the time, and ended up looking like Man City X had created it, with my original post deleted, so no one knew what the fuck was going on. Then I saw my OP here, hence the 'ahhhh Thats what happened to my thread'. So you see, it is on topic.dobobobo said:Pigeonho said:About what?
Stuff that aint on topic.
I'm aware of all that. Mod(s) did a good job of mopping it up, why did you bring it up again?
I won't be responding no more.
Chi-town blues
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This ^^^^bitsmith said:IcriedwhenTueartleft said:Still, Samir will be back soon and we have missed him in Europe.
Won't help people calling him games though.
Nasri doesn't give the ball away like each one of those suckers that played tonight did.
cleavers
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Shameful second half from the players tonight, shameful, nothing to do with the managers tactics, a number of players arrogantly thought the game was over.
When players can't pass a football 10 yards to a team mate, they are the ones to blame. The rot set in upfront, I said to my other half that the front two needed to up their game about 5 minutes into the second half, they didn't, one got taken off the other vanished. No idea what the point of Navas coming on was, but he provided little or nothing, and no cover to his fullback, and Milner who had been excellent for 45 minutes vanished as well. Fernando and Fernandhino have a lot of improving to do if they are to play together regularly, and Yaya was weak, when we needed strength. Vinny was poor in the second half, having been great in the first. Not a single player should be paid for that second half performance, it was arrogant, poor, and lacking in kind of creativity, guile, skill, or effort.
Not good enough for any level, never mind this one.
When players can't pass a football 10 yards to a team mate, they are the ones to blame. The rot set in upfront, I said to my other half that the front two needed to up their game about 5 minutes into the second half, they didn't, one got taken off the other vanished. No idea what the point of Navas coming on was, but he provided little or nothing, and no cover to his fullback, and Milner who had been excellent for 45 minutes vanished as well. Fernando and Fernandhino have a lot of improving to do if they are to play together regularly, and Yaya was weak, when we needed strength. Vinny was poor in the second half, having been great in the first. Not a single player should be paid for that second half performance, it was arrogant, poor, and lacking in kind of creativity, guile, skill, or effort.
Not good enough for any level, never mind this one.
Lavinda Past said:KnaresboroughBlue said:Prestwich_Blue said:Anybody want to challenge my belief from a few weeks ago that Pellegrini has taken us as far as he can?
No. I agree.
A few weeks ago...?
I told everyone last season that he wasn't good enough, and was shouted down because he was the 'messiah' to 95% of the sycophants posting on here.
Pellegrini will definitely be gone before next season.
He is a failure in Europe. Not good enough for City. Mansour knows it. Ferrano and Beerstain know it. Even Pellegrini knows it. He should do us all a favour and fuck off now.
^^^^^^Like a man on Market Street shouting at the top of his voice, people pass by not giving a fuck.
Millwallawayveteran1988
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foetus said:Shit competition anyway. The spurs game on the weekend was 10 times more entertaining than all our champions league games combined.
I think most fans would agree. Problem is the owners won't agree. They need high profile on the world stage not just in England.
If current personal can't manage it then they will bring in others who will until they find the answer whether fans like it or not.
somethingelse
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without the penalty its a 2-1 win, and Dzekos penalty was much clearer 1st half and should of been a red card too,Fernandos tackle was fair never a yellow that set the tone for most of the refs performance 2nd half, as for Pel his subs were wrong for me , Dzeko was on his game and looked fit ,Milner did look tired and no wonder, they were on top for 5 minutes before the first goal time enough to get Fernandinho on
Agree with the inability to shut up shop comments
Agree with the inability to shut up shop comments
80s Shorts
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Pigeonho said:About what?dobobobo said:Pigeonho said:Ahhh now I see what happened to my thread. Was being merged. Think I'm owed a few apologies.
Shut up.
Fkin bore off ya rag ****.
Kippax Old Local
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Mistakes by the management and certain players this evening... no doubt about it, but I suggest we do not completely ignore the influence of this already suspect referee. I don't entertain that there is an agenda against us but I do believe there is continuing corruption at a variety of levels.
The fact is he was instrumental in determining the outcome of this match and without his interventions and lack of responses to situations we would have won the game.
He failed to award a clear and obvious penalty in the first half for Edin Dzeko and his colleague officiating behind the goal also ignored it.
How he didn't book Doumbia for diving is beyond me. His officials also chose to ignore this incident.
My suspicion and that is all it is ; is that the referee and his team took the opportunity the players presented them to effect the outcome of this game. Hopefully continuing suspicions against this referee and others will lead to further monitioring and investigations and actions.. however I won't be holding my breath.
The fact is he was instrumental in determining the outcome of this match and without his interventions and lack of responses to situations we would have won the game.
He failed to award a clear and obvious penalty in the first half for Edin Dzeko and his colleague officiating behind the goal also ignored it.
How he didn't book Doumbia for diving is beyond me. His officials also chose to ignore this incident.
My suspicion and that is all it is ; is that the referee and his team took the opportunity the players presented them to effect the outcome of this game. Hopefully continuing suspicions against this referee and others will lead to further monitioring and investigations and actions.. however I won't be holding my breath.
2-0 now, robben not even involved in the goal this time. Fancy us to do this in Rome? Bayern are a dream to watch.pml79 said:We avnt got players like roben out wide who are dangerous we have no runners with the ball who take people on and go past themArmaan said:Look at how amazing we made Roma look and look at how ordinary Bayern are making them look in their back yard. Light years behind.
jimharri
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Bayern 2 up tonight.
OB1
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Tonight was a collective failure and singling out individual players does not help.
This result was not the manager's sole fault either but I was constantly telling my TV before they scored that we needed to go for three in central midfield and I do mean three; not just playing a midfielder in a forward's role. However, that does not excuse the players for their lack of game control in the second half: it should not have prevented us playing a possession game and controlling the match.
I am aware of the technical weaknesses in the squad when it comes to UCL but I still believe that these are hugely exacerbated but mental weakness in this competition.
One general concern I have at the moment is that we are not organised enough defensively ; in a way that we were at the end of last season. Part of the issue there might be bedding in Mangala but it was very evident against Spurs and Mangala was not involved then.
This result was not the manager's sole fault either but I was constantly telling my TV before they scored that we needed to go for three in central midfield and I do mean three; not just playing a midfielder in a forward's role. However, that does not excuse the players for their lack of game control in the second half: it should not have prevented us playing a possession game and controlling the match.
I am aware of the technical weaknesses in the squad when it comes to UCL but I still believe that these are hugely exacerbated but mental weakness in this competition.
One general concern I have at the moment is that we are not organised enough defensively ; in a way that we were at the end of last season. Part of the issue there might be bedding in Mangala but it was very evident against Spurs and Mangala was not involved then.
Hamann Pineapple
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Mister Appointment said:Awful officiating. You just can't get away from it. It effected the result whether we like it or not.
As to the tactics, I think if you watched the first half then you know the level they can play at. You can't legislate for every one of our attacking four/five players being very very poor collectively and individually in the second half.
I said before the game it was a must win. We haven't. What that says about Pellegrini, it's difficult to say. I think it's almost impossible that he'll be sacked next summer but he'll be acutely aware of how important the CL is and this is his second shot at it and we haven't looked any better.
We need to dust ourselves down because we go to West Ham this weekend and in the weekly narrative that's just become a big game.
Maybe, just maybe, we should change tactics for European games?
Mancini'sImaginaryCard
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3 up for bayern