Millwallawayveteran1988 said:inchy14 said:Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:Funny isn't it, how Bayern get a penalty, we're denied a stoner and the ref shafts us with a fictitious one!
Have Bayern, Madrid, Barca, MANUre ever been on the shitty end of that kind of thing? I suspect not!
No probably not.
I'd love to know how many key incorrect decisions we've had against us in this corrupt competition now. Anyone want to work it out? I can't be arsed but I guess it'll be double figures.
Our second goal could easily have been given as offside against Zabaleta. Kolorov as per fucking usual didn't use his brain in the area and got the wrong side of the forward. He certainly didn't get the ball and the player gave the ref the chance to make the decision. Yaya gives the ball away, the cross comes in too easily and Kolorov fucks up. Ultimately that was down to our players ineptitude as well as a players diving conning the ref.
oasis-city-greek-fan said:Pelle doesn t look at opponents weakness not before not even during the game...He lives in his own world!!! This is NOT a CL winning behaviour
Hamann Pineapple said:Rafael Hernández @RafaelH117 3m3 minutes ago
Manchester City’s been gravely damaged by the officiating in the UCL, it’s blatant and offensively, shows a suspicious bias.
Let's have it right, CSKA and Roma would represent, at present, Palace and Southampton respectively. We should be beating both these teams, we being the players.BobKowalski said:Pigeonho said:Yet a pre eir league title and league cup in his first year I charge says otherwise. I'm stunned these lists slating the manager aren't being more heavily criticised, yet posters like me who question those posts get accused of stirring shit.GoMancini7 said:Its CSKA striker , Musa before the game:
We're going to use that advantage because in the couple of two games they played they are not that good," he said.
"We know their weak point - they are very weak in their defence - so we are going to try to do our best to work against that."
If even a team like CSKA knows our weaknesses and able to punish it even tell it before the game like this thats really fucking sad and reflects bad on the manager.
The two issues are not mutually exclusive. We do have a weakness in defence. We had it last season too but our strategy is to overwhelm with superior players/firepower and in the PL we invariably make it work. In the CL this strategy does not work. This season in the PL we now have a comparable opponent in Chelsea so it remains to be seen whether we make it work again.
But in the CL what we do now simply does not work and hoping it does is not a viable plan.
mad zab said:TheThirdDeano said:I feel like breaking my own rule and posting for the third time in the same thread:
I don't blame Pellegrini for tonight, in fact I think his changes were all good choices, although arguably aguero should have gone rather than dzeko but that's by the by.
We were lacking speed and urgency going forward. Navas is quick and good holding the ball up on the edge of their area, ushering us forward, the use of both were shown in the final few minutes when we decided to play again.
Fernandinho was brought on to plug the midfield but frankly it was like trying to use a cork to plug the hole in the side of the titanic. but this wasn't down to anything other than the players performances.
Jovetic was simply an attacking move, a final roll of the dice with Pelle is more than entitled, almost encouraged, to have done at that time.
This loss is down to nothing other than the players. Kompany was bad, looked shaky in possession and was far too often found out of position.
Mangala is still learning and so put a bad shift in, the lad is still young and shows very positive signs. Still he was poor tonight.
Kolarov gave the ball away time and time again.
Yaya was attempting flicks and dinks that he had no earthly right to try and the times he did, proof of this is just before the penalty is given.
Silva, apart from his glorious chip through was largely invisible and ineffective.
Zaba was rather shaky and didn't look like his marauding self.
Fernando was another one who had a vendetta against using his possession usefully and ended up losing it.
Milner was average
Aguero was good but again nowhere near his best.
Dzeko was overall quite alright and it's debatable whether or not he should have been taken off.
This issue here, as with every European and domestic game we've thrown away is the attitude of the club, for whatever reason we simply do not step up, and when we do we seem to take our foot off the opponents neck which we simply cannot afford to do this any more, especially if we want to get anywhere in Europe. We had these issues when we first stepped into Europe and we still have these issues now, and that leads me to believe it's not the managers that's the issue here.
I will make it clear: I am not saying pellegrini is immune from criticism, I am however saying that tonight as with previous games, and games we played like this under Mancini, tonight was not pellegrini's fault.
Of course it was
He picked the team....the formation and the tactics
If he had taken Toure off rather than Silva then I may have given him some slack.....however like Mancini he showed he didn't have the bottle to take off the so called big players who might rock the boat....this is why we didn't win so please stop making excuses for him!!
Ifwecouldjust....... said:oasis-city-greek-fan said:Pelle doesn t look at opponents weakness not before not even during the game...He lives in his own world!!! This is NOT a CL winning behaviour
RAG? sniff sniff
Ifwecouldjust....... said:oasis-city-greek-fan said:Pelle doesn t look at opponents weakness not before not even during the game...He lives in his own world!!! This is NOT a CL winning behaviour
RAG? sniff sniff
Pigeonho said:Let's have it right, CSKA and Roma would represent, at present, Palace and Southampton respectively. We should be beating both these teams, we being the players.BobKowalski said:Pigeonho said:Yet a pre eir league title and league cup in his first year I charge says otherwise. I'm stunned these lists slating the manager aren't being more heavily criticised, yet posters like me who question those posts get accused of stirring shit.
The two issues are not mutually exclusive. We do have a weakness in defence. We had it last season too but our strategy is to overwhelm with superior players/firepower and in the PL we invariably make it work. In the CL this strategy does not work. This season in the PL we now have a comparable opponent in Chelsea so it remains to be seen whether we make it work again.
But in the CL what we do now simply does not work and hoping it does is not a viable plan.
jared said:Pigeonho said:Thsts why its not frightening. The first 3 have been doing it for decades. It doesn't just happen overnight, you have to work at it and earn it. Our players need to get thst into their heads.TheThirdDeano said:It's actually frightening how far we are off the likes of Bayern, Real, Barca or even teams like Atletico Madrid.
European Success will come, but it won't be for a long, long time.
PSG have done better than us since their sugar daddy invested heavily. Our investment in comparison hasn't paid off
inchy14 said:Millwallawayveteran1988 said:inchy14 said:No probably not.
I'd love to know how many key incorrect decisions we've had against us in this corrupt competition now. Anyone want to work it out? I can't be arsed but I guess it'll be double figures.
Our second goal could easily have been given as offside against Zabaleta. Kolorov as per fucking usual didn't use his brain in the area and got the wrong side of the forward. He certainly didn't get the ball and the player gave the ref the chance to make the decision. Yaya gives the ball away, the cross comes in too easily and Kolorov fucks up. Ultimately that was down to our players ineptitude as well as a players diving conning the ref.
Ok that explains their penalty, please explain our non existent one, the offside was marginal and was only noticed on a freeze frame.
The upshot is we've been shafted on numerous occasions in this competition, fuck me, Fernando got booked for fuck all again tonight.