CSKA Post Match Thread

[John.des]

Very surprised at Roma, but if they lose this and Bayern away that gives us a last chance. Well only if we beat cSKA home and Roma away too. Which wont be easy even if Bayern wins 10-0 today.

How this Roma looked very good tho in the Etihad? And just how far Bayern is away from us. Because if Hart doesnt have his best game at Allianz that could have been a similar result like this Roma-Bayern...

CL is not for us until we make the needed changes in tactics and mentality.

 

[blueinsa]

There is a wolf at our door. The real enemy and turning on our players and manager is exactly what they want.

We need to collectively tell UEFA we have had enough of their bullshit!

How does that involve the players fucking up the second half?

It doesn't. That said and despite how shit we were, the ref had to give them a penalty to get them anything from the game. We could have had a blinder but not scored and at 2-1, he decides to give them a penalty.

Corrupt is fucking corrupt. They don't just say only do it if they are playing shit.

We have had it ever since we started in this competition.

 

[NinoK]

Hope our players get to watch the CFC match. There is a solidity about Chelsea that we haven't got.

yeah, except chelsea get to play maribor and schalke, while city gets roma and cska. not exactly comparable. CSKA are one of the biggest teams in Russia (where the domestic league is VERY strong), while Maribor have never before even qualified for the group stages in the CL and pay their footballers what CSKA's players get per hour basically.

 

[blue_sonic176]

4!! And this is an even stronger Roma side than we played haha. Bayern with robben will spank us silly.

It's all about the killer instinct and maintaining your intensity through the 90 minutes regardless of the score. We can't do it, sadly

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Its fair that Pellergrini is getting some stick on here a Sunday league manager would have known to play one up front tonight any one with a brain said so beforehand.

But how do you legislate for Kompany, Zabaleta, Silva, Toure Milner (obviously), Fernando and Dzeko all turning in absolutely shambolic performances in the 2nd half that from a professional point of view beggared belief. No matter what formation or tactics you have would not have worked the way they were playing. They need a good bollocking (but from who? its easy come easy go at the club) there is more to it than picking you money up in these games we are undone time and time again in CL.

I am sorry everyone but we need to talk about James (aka Jimmy, Jamie) at some point....but not tonight......

You missed Mangala, Kolorov and Navas from that list.

 

[deafmanstevo]

Win in Rome and we are through.

The thing is there might be 80,000 Italians there but if you look at Roma's stadium the fans are not near the pitch and not as intimidating as they could be, we could easily get a result there I think we showed them too much respect at the etihad

 

[carlosthejackal]

It shouldn't have made any difference about not getting the penalty tonight, we should have had the balls and desire to put another two past them in the second half . Total lack of effort, desire and thinking from all of them and that includes the manager .

 

[Juan King]

Every time a result doesn't go our way, the usual crackpots come on here posting the same shite. The same players get singled out & apparently even the manager, who won two trophies last season, is now not good enough either!


We were poor second half, but it happens. To suggest we need to change the manager & ship out some of our best players is ridiculous. Even most of the favourites on here were poor too, should we ship them all out?

 

[Pigeonho]

It's actually frightening how far we are off the likes of Bayern, Real, Barca or even teams like Atletico Madrid.

European Success will come, but it won't be for a long, long time.

Thsts why its not frightening. The first 3 have been doing it for decades. It doesn't just happen overnight, you have to work at it and earn it. Our players need to get thst into their heads.

I disagree. It happened almost overnight with Atletico and Dortmund. They just sprang to life quickly and challenged for the trophy. No reason we should not be challenging, except... well, I question the players more than the manager. There is a collective lack of hunger that has spanned two completely different regimes (authoritarian Mancini and loveable Pellegrini).

Two things Atletico and Dortmund had in common despite playing totally different styles: they were fearless and got in the face of any team, no matter what their standing and reputation.

Maybe it is an actual club thing, as stupid and far fetched as that sounds. I've heard before how we seem to just not believe in ourselves in the competition. It csmt be the players because we have world cups winners amongst us and players who have played for some huge clubs. It feels like a curse in thst sense, like we just don't believe. Thst of course has to be bollocks though.

 

[hgblue]

Awful officiating. You just can't get away from it. It effected the result whether we like it or not.

As to the tactics, I think if you watched the first half then you know the level they can play at. You can't legislate for every one of our attacking four/five players being very very poor collectively and individually in the second half.

I said before the game it was a must win. We haven't. What that says about Pellegrini, it's difficult to say. I think it's almost impossible that he'll be sacked next summer but he'll be acutely aware of how important the CL is and this is his second shot at it and we haven't looked any better.

We need to dust ourselves down because we go to West Ham this weekend and in the weekly narrative that's just become a big game.

Maybe, just maybe, we should change tactics for European games?

IMO that isn't the only reason we didn't win tonight and it isn't even the biggest reason we didn't win.

So on we go doing the same thing expecting different results.....

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Hope our players get to watch the CFC match. There is a solidity about Chelsea that we haven't got.

yeah, except chelsea get to play maribor and schalke, while city gets roma and cska. not exactly comparable. CSKA are one of the biggest teams in Russia (where the domestic league is VERY strong), while Maribor have never before even qualified for the group stages in the CL and pay their footballers what CSKA's players get per hour basically.

And they have the benefit of an iffy pen and an offside goal! But there is far more woomph about CFC than we appear to have displayed in Moscow!

 

[blueinsa]

Every time a result doesn't go our way, the usual crackpots come on here posting the same shite. The same players get singled out & apparently even the manager, who won two trophies last season, is now not good enough either!


We were poor second half, but it happens. To suggest we need to change the manager & ship out some of our best players is ridiculous. Even most of the favourites on here were poor too, should we ship them all out?

Post of the thread.

 

[I'm Blue]

Shocking performance tonight from our players, that second half was shameful.
I've pretty much given up on qualifying, but what I want to see from our final games is some pride, some passion and most of all, some fight!

 

[inchy14]

Not sure why Pellegrini is getting all the grief. The players looked knackered in the second half. Dino looked awful when he came on and we just kept hacking the ball out with no composure whatsoever. We should have sewn that game up.
Kolarov and Yaya had a shocker for me and the ref was a joke.

the ref made one poor decision..one...we got a soft pen on saturday.
pellegrini is getting the grief cos he simply refuses to change tactics.stubborn beyond belief.
we will not progress in europe..i truly believe we have regressed this season i n europe.

One poor decision? You on drugs mate? Not see the one on Dzeko which would have made it 3-0? That was the more important incorrect decision.

Not excusing the second half performance but that was the real turning point.

 

[mad zab]

Its fair that Pellergrini is getting some stick on here a Sunday league manager would have known to play one up front tonight any one with a brain said so beforehand.

But how do you legislate for Kompany, Zabaleta, Silva, Toure Milner (obviously), Fernando and Dzeko all turning in absolutely shambolic performances in the 2nd half that from a professional point of view beggared belief. No matter what formation or tactics you have would not have worked the way they were playing. They need a good bollocking (but from who? its easy come easy go at the club) there is more to it than picking you money up in these games we are undone time and time again in CL.

I am sorry everyone but we need to talk about James (aka Jimmy, Jamie some great passes into touch and pinpoint 3 feet passes to the Moscow players) at some point....but not tonight......

Maybe they all looked at Toure and thought if he can't be fucking bothered why should I!!!

However, the simple truth is they had two shots on target (one a penalty) and scored

It still doesn't excuse the inability of Pellegrini to get his tactics right....which he continues to do

 

[Utter bobbins]

Every time a result doesn't go our way, the usual crackpots come on here posting the same shite. The same players get singled out & apparently even the manager, who won two trophies last season, is now not good enough either!


We were poor second half, but it happens. To suggest we need to change the manager & ship out some of our best players is ridiculous. Even most of the favourites on here were poor too, should we ship them all out?

Spot on mate

 

[shemnel]

It's actually frightening how far we are off the likes of Bayern, Real, Barca or even teams like Atletico Madrid.

European Success will come, but it won't be for a long, long time.

Thsts why its not frightening. The first 3 have been doing it for decades. It doesn't just happen overnight, you have to work at it and earn it. Our players need to get thst into their heads.

PSG have done better than us since their sugar daddy invested heavily. Our investment in comparison hasn't paid off

excuse me what?

 

[Pigeonho]

Every time a result doesn't go our way, the usual crackpots come on here posting the same shite. The same players get singled out & apparently even the manager, who won two trophies last season, is now not good enough either!


We were poor second half, but it happens. To suggest we need to change the manager & ship out some of our best players is ridiculous. Even most of the favourites on here were poor too, should we ship them all out?

Post of the thread.

You just said its the fault of corrupt officials!!! I created a thread saying what this poster said, about the manger, and got absolutely fucking HAMMERED for it! This fucking place.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Win in Rome and we are through.

The thing is there might be 80,000 Italians there but if you look at Roma's stadium the fans are not near the pitch and not as intimidating as they could be, we could easily get a result there I think we showed them too much respect at the etihad

We could but how many times in 4 years have we really turned up and played to our full ability in Europe? Very very few.

Why all of a sudden people think we will turn into world beaters in this comp I don't know.

We were lucky to get away with 1-0 in Munich. Lucky to get a point at home to Roma and tonight's 2nd half performance was just dire.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Not sure why Pellegrini is getting all the grief. The players looked knackered in the second half. Dino looked awful when he came on and we just kept hacking the ball out with no composure whatsoever. We should have sewn that game up.
Kolarov and Yaya had a shocker for me and the ref was a joke.

the ref made one poor decision..one...we got a soft pen on saturday.
pellegrini is getting the grief cos he simply refuses to change tactics.stubborn beyond belief.
we will not progress in europe..i truly believe we have regressed this season i n europe.

One poor decision? You on drugs mate? Not see the one on Dzeko which would have made it 3-0? That was the more important incorrect decision.

Not excusing the second half performance but that was the real turning point.

Was our second goal not offside?