Cycling

[domalino]

Yep this is a huge problem in women's sport.
The only fair way I can see is that transgender is a different category. So its mens, women, transgender this wont please the PC brigade.
Transgender has a big advantage over the women and clearly isnt fair, soon they wont be any born women winning their events.

FWIW it's not a big problem. It's a genuine, but really tiny problem that gets massively amplified one or two times a year mostly by people who have never watched the women's tour of mexico, or US college swimming in their lives and don't care at all about the people competing in it.

Anyone who thinks "soon there won't be any born women winning their events" pretty clearly has a completely distorted sense of this issue...no transgender woman has ever won any major professional sporting event.

The event won by Austin Killips is a 5th division cycling race. It's a problem that needs to be dealt with primarily by much more extensive research into physiological differences and long term advantages, but the amount of news coverage it gets is completely disproportionate to the actual size of the issue and prevalence of transgender professional athletes.

 

[BlueMoonday]

I don't think there is anything malicious in cycling Mikey's videos. He's Dutch, so I wonder if it's just a cultural thing us Brit's are not used to?

Creeping up, zooming in on somebody's phone screen and then commenting on what they're doing isn't normal behaviour regardless of where you are from in the world.

The law doesn't require the accuser to do that.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Creeping up, zooming in on somebody's phone screen and then commenting on what they're doing isn't normal behaviour regardless of where you are from in the world.

The law doesn't require the accuser to do that.

It definitely is over the top, but I'm not quite sure it's quite rises to 'sexual predator' levels though.

 

[BlueMoonday]

It definitely is over the top, but I'm not quite sure it's quite rises to 'sexual predator' levels though.

I'd also add that in most cases the driver he's caught has already or will face some form of punishment (points and a fine etc).

I'm against those using their phone at the wheel but In my opinion they don't deserve to have their vehicle reg and face broadcasted to thousands of viewers on top of the penalty that's coming to them. It's public shaming for an offence that doesn't warrant it.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

I'd also add that in most cases the driver he's caught has already or will face some form of punishment (points and a fine etc).

I'm against those using their phone at the wheel but In my opinion they don't deserve to have their vehicle reg and face broadcasted to thousands of viewers on top of the penalty that's coming to them. It's public shaming for an offence that doesn't warrant it.

I think it's quite a deterrent for some habitual offenders. The chances of getting caught and punished without third-party reporting is diminishingly low.

There should be zero tolerance of mobile phone use at the wheel of a motor vehicle, but we still aren't there yet. Same with speeding, close passing and other dangerous behaviours. There are always those that seek to excuse it, and offer false equivalencies and whataboutery.

 

[chesterbells]

Tom Pidcock you fucking beauty!

 

[discopop]

Tom Pidcock you fucking beauty!

Fucking smashed it from a shite draw as well.

 

[chesterbells]

Fucking smashed it from a shite draw as well.

Yep, that was amazing wasn’t it; he had to put so much more effort in that any other rider in those first 2 or 3 laps.
A fabulous cyclist - there aren’t many who can switch from road to trails and back again like that at win in both.
I honestly think all his road work must give him so much stamina for these 1 hour 20 events. But his ability to repeatedly accelerate in small bursts and keep the concentration levels needed to stay on his bike is incredible.

 

[discopop]

Yep, that was amazing wasn’t it; he had to put so much more effort in that any other rider in those first 2 or 3 laps.
A fabulous cyclist - there aren’t many who can switch from road to trails and back again like that at win in both.
I honestly think all his road work must give him so much stamina for these 1 hour 20 events. But his ability to repeatedly accelerate in small bursts and keep the concentration levels needed to stay on his bike is incredible.

Pity MVP crashed out as that would have been a delight, shame to see Sagan looking like a mortal cyclist. Been a great Worlds

 

[chesterbells]

Pity MVP crashed out as that would have been a delight, shame to see Sagan looking like a mortal cyclist. Been a great Worlds

Yep, fully agreed to all that pal.