Daily Mail Article (Pep allegedly wants improved atmosphere)

cadds92 said:
I don't know then, surely it must be the traffic outside.

I have heard that if you do leave at the 80-85min mark, getting out of one of parking areas around the ground can save 30 minutes if not 45 minutes + depending on where you are going.
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I've thought about this again and agree the trams will have an effect
There's a group of 7 of us that all sit together. 3 of which are over 60 and use the tram to get back to Piccadilly to get the train home.

They all leave early every game to get on the tram before it gets busy because they can't do the waiting at the tram stop at the ground to get into town. Whether that's they can't be arsed with the waiting or physically unable to stand/queue for health reasons I don't know. But there's just under 50% of our group that leave early for this reason
 
The Northern Baptist said:
I've thought about this again and agree the trams will have an effect
There's a group of 7 of us that all sit together. 3 of which are over 60 and use the tram to get back to Piccadilly to get the train home.

They all leave early every game to get on the tram before it gets busy because they can't do the waiting at the tram stop at the ground to get into town. Whether that's they can't be arsed with the waiting or physically unable to stand/queue for health reasons I don't know. But there's just under 50% of our group that leave early for this reason
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What did they do before the tram?
It's only been running to the stadium for a couple of years
 
1. Reduce tickets to £20 a game. The club can afford to and nobody can tell me any different.
2. Have a word with Showsec. Can't ask us to create an atmosphere if your security is doing the opposite.
3. Reduce beer prices. More beer = More Singing
4. Turn off music and those awful promos 15 minutes before the game. I know they have contracts with Nissan and the likes where they have to show adverts, just renegotiate and only play the adverts at half time. Let us build the atmosphere pre-game.
5. Work with the 1984 group to fund bigger and better displays. Good way to start a game and get the south stand going.
6. It would be nice if the players celebrated more passionately like Vincent Kompany, instead of trying to find the player who assisted them so they can give them a bloody team hug. If the players are passionate we'll be passionate.
7. Publicly back the city fans in the media when we get criticised; through either the manager, website or our social media accounts etc. So many city fans are not enjoying football at the moment, really feel as if everyone is getting on ours backs and the club aren't helping at all.
8. Ban season ticket holders from renewing (not buying future one off tickets though) if they don't turn up to a certain % of games in a season.
 
Tugay One Cup said:
Believe it or not, it's the team's job to win matches, not entertain the crowd.

It's a symbiotic relationship

The atmosphere is shite regardless of how well we perform with the exception of a few big games like Monaco. Delph trying to get the fans awake is an example of how nonplussed a lot of fans are and how it's bollocks to suggest it's performance related.

There are plenty of reasons why it's lacking and to lay the blame at the feet of the players is a cop out to be quite honest.
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Great post. Unless we admit we have a problem we will never solve it. Ultimately only the fans can improve the atmosphere by taking individual and collective responsibility. Saddens me sometimes when I see highlights of our games in the 80's/90's, the team was shite mostly but we were engaged and passionate fans. We literally saved the club in it's darkest hour by turning out and making noise we were that good.
 
dickie davies said:
What did they do before the tram?
It's only been running to the stadium for a couple of years
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Think they drove in/got a lift but arrangements change. One of the fellas won't be coming back next season as he is now very ill. The other one used to get a lift in with his son but now the son gets the train in so he has to rely on the tram.
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
Ultimately, it's the teams job to get the crowd pumped and not the other way round.
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The Northern Baptist said:
Think they drove in/got a lift but arrangements change. One of the fellas won't be coming back next season as he is now very ill. The other one used to get a lift in with his son but now the son gets the train in so he has to rely on the tram.
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That's fair enough
If the new parking restrictions do come into place then God knows what I'll do

Currently from the end of the match to home, 30 miles away, it takes me just over an hour
It may take me that long to get on a tram
 
dickie davies said:
What did they do before the tram?
It's only been running to the stadium for a couple of years
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There does seem to be an increase in early leavers since the trams started running to the stadium. That said, it doesn't seem to me that the queues for the tram are that big (relative to the size of the crowd).

It does seem to be something of a vicious circle at the moment. The early leavers have started leaving even earlier because more fans have started leaving early to avoid getting held up behind the early leavers.
 
cibaman said:
There does seem to be an increase in early leavers since the trams started running to the stadium. That said, it doesn't seem to me that the queues for the tram are that big (relative to the size of the crowd).

It does seem to be something of a vicious circle at the moment. The early leavers have started leaving even earlier because more fans have started leaving early to avoid getting held up behind the early leavers.
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Yes I agree, but as I've said, if the new parking restrictions do come into force then half the stadium will be gone with ten minutes of the game left

If we have 50,000 City fans in the stadium and 20,000 are parked on official or unofficial car parks
10,000 may walk into town or to wherever
A couple of thousand hang around for a beer
Public transport has to deal with almost 20,000 supporters
 
That's why I prefer the away games, there's more chance of people joining in if you start singing. And the atmos is usually excellent. Whereas up in level 3 you stand up and start clapping or, heaven forbid, start a song and there will be many who give you a look, others may just keep striaght ahead and not look at the "nutter" behind you. You can't suddenly make a whole bunch of people passionate.

And to stop people leaving early? Provide more buses and trams, leaving every 2 mins.
 
pissedagain said:
you are being played by the press they come on here, read the stupid threads that people start about early leavers then put the question to pep, hence they have a headline that pep is not happy, just laugh at it. but get ready for the "its worse at our ground than anywhere else brigade ""
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Just wait a minute, you're alleging the press actually come on here and do actual research in order to write these articles?

I'm not havin' that...
 
why do we as fans still accept we cant take our beer to our seats ? we have been made to sit now in the prem for several decades and as football fans we can't even take a drink to our overpriced seats.if there is a concert or rugby match at the etihad its no problem but footy ? no way.maybe we as city fans should boycott all food and drinks inside the ground and hope other clubs follow suit until the power that be stop treating us like second class citizens.

regarding the trams,why are there always so many for people going back into town ? everyone waiting for an ashton tram see's several go past us with " not in service " on it till it gets to asda and changes tracks to come back to take people into town,jesus,you can walk it in 10-15 minutes.its so bad Iv gone back to the snail crawling buses after games now.
 
I have seen similar threads on the scouse forums and Utd and others... atmosphere in the modern day game is shite due to tickets being priced out of range of the working class who make the noise. I dont think this is a City problem.... I dont even know if this article in the DMail is real or just based on bullshit, but they certainly know how to rile the fans


Soz if already posted
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
I'm not being smart but if our team managed to stop fluffing chances and hitting posts then the atmosphere wouldn't be a problem.

Our support have nerves that are shot to hell. Too many games we should coast that we historically fluff our lines or make it a slog to actually score and not concede.

And if Pep wants to blame the atmosphere on someone else, blame Pellers. We had a manager with the charisma of a door who managed to suck the life out of 2 years of this club.

Ultimately, it's the teams job to get the crowd pumped and not the other way round.
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So why is the atmosphere shit when we've been 4 up v Bournemouth for example?

It's all a load of bollocks that's why. The atmosphere at any ground in England is similar, it has high points and low points during each individual game. The more the fans think the team are being shafted the better the atmosphere imo. We seem to hate that more than us giving anyone a good spanking. I've said it before but over here compared to the continent the majority of fans go to watch the game and take in the tactics etc.. rather than go to hear a fucking drum beaten for 90 minutes. Hate the atmosphere in England go to a game in Turkey.
As for fans leaving early, yes the club needs to look at ways to minimise issues leaving but it's always been the same and nothing will change it.
 
inchy14 said:
So why is the atmosphere shit when we've been 4 up v Bournemouth for example?

It's all a load of bollocks that's why. The atmosphere at any ground in England is similar, it has high points and low points during each individual game. The more the fans think the team are being shafted the better the atmosphere imo. We seem to hate that more than us giving anyone a good spanking. I've said it before but over here compared to the continent the majority of fans go to watch the game and take in the tactics etc.. rather than go to hear a fucking drum beaten for 90 minutes. Hate the atmosphere in England go to a game in Turkey.
As for fans leaving early, yes the club needs to look at ways to minimise issues leaving but it's always been the same and nothing will change it.
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He he, so you think the fans in the rest of Europe are tactically naive. That made me chuckle.
Actually having watched Many matches in Spain I think the atmosphere is better there for 2 reasons.
1 cheaper tickets so working class still go.
2 They actually go to enjoy themselves
rather than here where people go to let off steam and moan after having a shit week at work in miserable weather , traffic etc.
 
asahartford1 said:
He he, so you think the fans in the rest of Europe are tactically naive. That made me chuckle.
Actually having watched Many matches in Spain I think the atmosphere is better there for 2 reasons.
1 cheaper tickets so working class still go.
2 They actually go to enjoy themselves
rather than here where people go to let off steam and moan after having a shit week at work in miserable weather , traffic etc.
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I went to Malaga v Barcelona last season and had a belting time. I'd go back in a heartbeat. Loads of British people taking the match in. I guess some expats (Guiri Army) and some on holiday like me.
 
peoffrey said:
I went to Malaga v Barcelona last season and had a belting time. I'd go back in a heartbeat. Loads of British people taking the match in. I guess some expats (Guiri Army) and some on holiday like me.
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Yes Malaga is great and a bit different.
I also love the andulucian and Basque grounds.
 
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