Danilo

[IWasHere]

Completely agree..we are at the top of the tree in one of the strongest leagues in the world..there's no room for sentiment..if Maffeo was good enough he would be in the team..the fact that he's not says all that needs to be said

It's amazing how some people don't get this.

 

[City_Sean]

That's a perfectly fine stance to take, but if the club take that stance then lets cut the bullshit about how the academy matters, and how HRH wants academy players in the team.

Because as discussed previously in this thread, No one's good enough to go straight into a team at the top of world football. Even Iniesta spent 3 years picking up sub appearances before he was deemed good enough to start, players just don't arrive pre-packaged and ready to be world class out of an academy, or out of some relegation la liga candidate feeder club.

And if there's no sentiment, then why is Khaldoon talking about wanting Mancunian, local lads in the team? Either there's sentiment and you want to invest in making these local lads good enough by taking a chance on them or you don't give a fuck where they players come from.

If you expect Messi 2.0 to come from Moss side and force his way into the team because he's world class at 17 then perhaps thats the message the chairman should be giving out.

Have you ever just thought that Pep doesn't rate Maffeo?

 

[pbueno16]

Miraculous how Spurs managed to use players like Harry Winks and Onomah (no loans) in this league while finishing above us then.

Because they actually took care of business against smaller teams instead of dicking about like we did.

 

[Goats left knee]

Give over some of you, if they are good enough they will be in the best 22.
If not they will leave eventually.. see rekik, boyata and denayer.

All supposedly world class young centre backs..

 

[Proy]

Just to break this down imo:

The academy is currently a cash cow.

It's that way because we are not yet ready to integrate youth.

We will be ready. No question. The academy DOES matter.

If you are currently at around age 17/18 In the EDS, you will be playing your football elsewhere.

If your 13/14, you will have a much better chance.

Miraculous how Spurs managed to use players like Harry Winks and Onomah (no loans) in this league while finishing above us then.

And have won fuck all. Totally different mentality at Spurs. Move their better players to line levys back fucking pockets

 

[domalino]

Have you ever just thought that Pep doesn't rate Maffeo?

I have, and then I asked myself why would the manager go out of his way to lie in press conferences about how good Maffeo is and how he just needs a bit of experience (which he went out and got) to get his chance.

 

[Sir peace frog]

It's amazing how some people don't get this.

some people will argue black is white,its common sense.

 

[MCFCAussie]

I have, and then I asked myself why would the manager go out of his way to lie in press conferences about how good Maffeo is and how he just needs a bit of experience (which he went out and got) to get his chance.

To sell him for more money...

 

[domalino]

Just to break this down imo:

The academy is currently a cash cow.

It's that way because we are not yet ready to integrate youth.

We will be ready. No question. The academy DOES matter.

If you are currently at around age 17/18 In the EDS, you will be playing your football elsewhere.

If your 13/14, you will have a much better chance.


And have won fuck all. Totally different mentality at Spurs. Move their better players to line levys back fucking pockets

Lets really break it down.

The academy is a cash cow which doesn't make much money.

The promises of academy integration were false.

We will never be ready because "ready" is an idealised world where we're not struggling to win trophies, and there's no risk in using kids.

The next crop of youngsters will always be "the one", until they're not.


If people were upfront about that we could all get on with our lives and get excited when a player like Danilo arrives, it's the constant "we're desperate to use kids, just as long as they're world class and worth £50m at 18 before we trust them in a cup game" that's annoys people like myself, and (I think) @Neville Kneville

 

[bobom]

I have, and then I asked myself why would the manager go out of his way to lie in press conferences about how good Maffeo is and how he just needs a bit of experience (which he went out and got) to get his chance.

But he's still really young. KW and Danilo are 26-27. That's their peak. Any team demanding to be the best team in the works needs players playing at or near their peak. Some freaks can do that at 19. Most can't.