Danilo

[13/05/12]

How does a youth player become 'ready'?

Is it the Chelsea way of loaning them out every year?

Pros: they get 100 first team games.

Cons: they constantly have to readjust to new clubs and people. They don't have stability on the pitch (positions, roles, relationships) and off the pitch (always have to start over again)

That's how players stagnate. These Chelsea lads are journeymen.

At some point you have to show the balls to trust youth and develop them yourself. People will hate it but look at Rashford. He may save them £millions because they gave him a shot.

Rashford played with some of the Chelsea boys for England youth like Solanke and Abraham. They were ahead of him. Look at him now....

 

[Proy]

I think he's good enough to get a chance.

I think from my point of view, it's really difficult to make that call simply because I have never watched him in the EDS, or anything whilst hes been on loan.

The club clearly don't think he's ready. We had poor, poor full backs last season, now they've gone and we have spent 70 million making that position stronger. He will likely go on loan again.

I think the standard the club have on these players getting that chance is much higher than that of the fan base.

I think in a few years after Pep is done here, we will be in a stronger position to allow the younger academy players to come through.

This is clearly a policy the club see as a way forward, because it appears that is exactly what we are doing.

 

[blueparrot]

I think for most clubs what you have described would ring true, I just have my doubts where City are concerned. We have have developed somewhat of a habit of sending players on loan, who do well and then still don't get a chance at the club.

To be fair non of the lads that have left are playing at a level higher than City, I'm sure if a player proves good enough he'll be brought into the squad, we are in the position that comes with Girona getting promoted, from next season of players going to a club we have some control over in a top league. Hopefully we'll see the benefits.

 

[domalino]

I think from my point of view, it's really difficult to make that call simply because I have never watched him in the EDS, or anything whilst hes been on loan.

The club clearly don't think he's ready. We had poor, poor full backs last season, now they've gone and we have spent 70 million making that position stronger. He will likely go on loan again.

I think the standard the club have on these players getting that chance is much higher than that of the fan base.

I think in a few years after Pep is done here, we will be in a stronger position to allow the younger academy players to come through.

This is clearly a policy the club see as a way forward, because it appears that is exactly what we are doing.

Leaving Maffeo/Danilo aside, we will never be in a stronger position to bring through youth.

We have a manager who has no chance of being sacked (#1 reason used for managers scared of trusting kids), a manager famous for youth development (#2 reason) & we have a massive squad turnover with old players leaving holes for the kids to fill (#3 reason - where's the space).

The Alves deal collapsing was the perfect opportunity. A space opens up, a kid with experience (more experience than Sergio Busquets had before he was put in barca's first team, and at a division higher level), a kid who's shown promise and has trained with the manager. And a transfer dilemma where we want 2 RB's but apparently needed a free transfer because we didn't want to spend too much on 4 fullbacks because funds were needed elsewhere.

Every other club in the world, including Real, Barca, Bayern - the clubs we're trying to emulare - would just use Maffeo.

 

[johnmc]

Is Di Marzio the only source for this at the minute?

 

[OrigamiNinja]

How does a youth player become 'ready'?

Is it the Chelsea way of loaning them out every year?

Pros: they get 100 first team games.

Cons: they constantly have to readjust to new clubs and people. They don't have stability on the pitch (positions, roles, relationships) and off the pitch (always have to start over again)

That's how players stagnate. These Chelsea lads are journeymen.

At some point you have to show the balls to trust youth and develop them yourself. People will hate it but look at Rashford. He may save them £millions because they gave him a shot.

Rashford played with some of the Chelsea boys for England youth like Solanke and Abraham. They were ahead of him. Look at him now....

Sometimes something negative e.g. an injury crisis, or a senior players complete loss of form turns into something positive. Rashford is a case in point. Unfortunately, where City are concerned it doesn't tend to play out this way. Last season, we had two complete duds at right back, it pains me to say that about Zabba but that's how it was. This was the time to give Maffeo a go, I doubt any City fan would have complained and yet we stuck with the duds, players that Pep basically told the media were too old and couldn't carry out his wishes on the park. We should have shown the balls then and we didn't, so either we are a club that never has any intention of blooding youth or Maffeo simply isn't good enough. I think we all pray it is the latter.

 

[Armaan]

It depends which danilo we get. The Porto one was amazing, the real Madrid one was dreadful.

 

[The Blue one!]

Is Di Marzio the only source for this at the minute?

The Gurdian, Daily mail and the MEN also

 

[roslers.grandad]

Is Di Marzio the only source for this at the minute?

The Guardian reporting it too.

 

[dachoosen1]

He is but we are replacing 2 and they will be rotated

Can't imagine either walker or danilo has joined to be rotated. We have fernandinho as an opinion at right back does this effect the Mendy deal? With foreign spots or whatever?