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Proy said:
I just can't agree with that particular part.

We spent much of last season and the one before scraping from one game to the next. We haven't developed like we should have and I think a lot of that centres around chasing pep. That's another argument though, and he's here now.

We are not in the 'elite'. Not yet. Under Pep I am certain we will get to that level.

And that is the issue in my opinion. I don't think we can get to that level taking chances on kids.

What happens if Walker gets hurt, just before a major cup final. Before a 6 pointer? What happens then?

I just feel that risk there, it's too big. It's too big.
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fuck me don't argue with him,he goes on and on.
 
Stato said:
The only way players get a chance is by luck and other players have injuries.
That's why Rashford got a go at United, injuries.
Its how many of our graduates in the past got a chance.
The fact is the top clubs will have bigger squads making it harder for the kids to get a chance.
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You mean luck like a transfer that had personal terms agreed falling through at the last minute?
 
peace frog said:
why is it whenever we are linked to a player the same thing comes out,
is maffeo better than danilo ?
is maffeo better than walker.



why the fuck should maffeo get in ahead of anybody if the coaches don't deem him good enough

he will get his chance against quality opposition next season,
he may do well it still doesn't mean he is good enough for city.

we aren't a struggling club, we are aiming high,these kids that come through need to show they really have it, not just good, but are the real deal or they wont get in.
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Completely agree..we are at the top of the tree in one of the strongest leagues in the world..there's no room for sentiment..if Maffeo was good enough he would be in the team..the fact that he's not says all that needs to be said
 
peace frog said:
would they ? real, barca and Bayern are so far ahead in their respective leagues they can maybe use maffeo,we are in a battle for the top 4 with about 7 other teams,as for busquets he obviously showed he was a world class player maffeo hasn't yet .
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Barcelona...so far ahead in their league they finished second.

Brilliant.
 
dachoosen1 said:
Can't imagine either walker or danilo has joined to be rotated. We have fernandinho as an opinion at right back does this effect the Mendy deal? With foreign spots or whatever?
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It's a high energy position in a pep team and injuries etc,one is not enough
Fernando has confirmed he is leaving so we have enough spaces i think,i'll believe mendy when he turns up,if he does
 
IanBishopsHaircut said:
Completely agree..we are at the top of the tree in one of the strongest leagues in the world..there's no room for sentiment..if Maffeo was good enough he would be in the team..the fact that he's not says all that needs to be said
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Case closed.

He's not in. We are spending 70 million in his position. He's not good enough.
 
I'm curious if this represents a change in formation to 3-4-3 because players like Danilo, Walker and Mendy are VERY attacking fullbacks,and in Danilo's case he is much better offensively than defensively.

Honestly wouldn't mind seeing Sane mixed in and have 4 wingbacks of Sane, Mendy, Danilo and Walker, the pace and physicality of those 4 is ridiculous.

Haven't seen alot of Danilo, but I think his case is similar to Moses in that, it's probably best to look at him as a defensive winger than an attacking fullback when considering his qualities.
 
domalino said:
Barcelona...so far ahead in their league they finished second.

Brilliant.
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so real and barca maybe wont qualify for the champs league or contest the league,?
we need to qualify for the champs league,we are in a proper scrap for it, not with 1 or 2 teams but maybe another 6, i reckon barca and real,and Bayern have it a little easier wouldn't you ?
 
WallyA said:
I'm curious if this represents a change in formation to 3-4-3 because players like Danilo, Walker and Mendy are VERY attacking fullbacks,and in Danilo's case he is much better offensively than defensively.

Honestly wouldn't mind seeing Sane mixed in and have 4 wingbacks of Sane, Mendy, Danilo and Walker, the pace and physicality of those 4 is ridiculous.

Haven't seen alot of Danilo, but I think his case is similar to Moses in that, it's probably best to look at him as a defensive winger than an attacking fullback when considering his qualities.
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I hope we do try out 3-4-3.
 
IanBishopsHaircut said:
Completely agree..we are at the top of the tree in one of the strongest leagues in the world..there's no room for sentiment..if Maffeo was good enough he would be in the team..the fact that he's not says all that needs to be said
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That's a perfectly fine stance to take, but if the club take that stance then lets cut the bullshit about how the academy matters, and how HRH wants academy players in the team.

Because as discussed previously in this thread, No one's good enough to go straight into a team at the top of world football. Even Iniesta spent 3 years picking up sub appearances before he was deemed good enough to start, players just don't arrive pre-packaged and ready to be world class out of an academy, or out of some relegation la liga candidate feeder club.

And if there's no sentiment, then why is Khaldoon talking about wanting Mancunian, local lads in the team? Either there's sentiment and you want to invest in making these local lads good enough by taking a chance on them or you don't give a fuck where they players come from.

If you expect Messi 2.0 to come from Moss side and force his way into the team because he's world class at 17 then perhaps thats the message the chairman should be giving out.
 
peace frog said:
so real and barca maybe wont qualify for the champs league or contest the league,?
we need to qualify for the champs league,we are in a proper scrap for it, not with 1 or 2 teams but maybe another 6, i reckon barca and real,and Bayern have it a little easier wouldn't you ?
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That's another point to this argument. The league we are in. So much stronger
 
domalino said:
That's a perfectly fine stance to take, but if the club take that stance then lets cut the bullshit about how the academy matters, and how HRH wants academy players in the team.

Because as discussed previously in this thread, No one's good enough to go straight into a team at the top of world football. Even Iniesta spent 3 years picking up sub appearances before he was deemed good enough to start, players just don't arrive pre-packaged and ready to be world class out of an academy, or out of some relegation la liga candidate feeder club.

And if there's no sentiment, then why is Khaldoon talking about wanting Mancunian, local lads in the team? Either there's sentiment or you don't give a fuck where they players come from.
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everybody wants academy players in the team. but not just for the sake of it.
 
domalino said:
That's a perfectly fine stance to take, but if the club take that stance then lets cut the bullshit about how the academy matters, and how HRH wants academy players in the team.

Because as discussed previously in this thread, No one's good enough to go straight into a team at the top of world football. Even Iniesta spent 3 years picking up sub appearances before he was deemed good enough to start, players just don't arrive pre-packaged and ready to be world class out of an academy, or out of some relegation la liga candidate feeder club.

And if there's no sentiment, then why is Khaldoon talking about wanting Mancunian, local lads in the team? Either there's sentiment or you don't give a fuck where they players come from.
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Just wanting to put an idea out there that if City do change to a 3-4-3 in the future then Maffeo's career isn't necessarily over at city with the Danilo signing.

Everytime I watched Maffeo play, he seemed like a defensive fullback to me, I don't know if he has the energy and pace to go up and down the pitch over 90 minutes. Having said that, being a defensive fullback makes him perfect for the RCB role in a back 3, and I think his future lies there.

Essentially the same role Azpilecueta has at Chelsea (RCB).
 
Proy said:
That's another point to this argument. The league we are in. So much stronger
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Miraculous how Spurs managed to use players like Harry Winks and Onomah (no loans) in this league while finishing above us then.
 
almir said:
everybody wants academy players in the team. but not just for the sake of it.
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It would be like throwing paint at a canvas and praying you get a masterpiece. Danilo is probably a target to rotate with Walker AND Mendy. We probably want his ability to play both sides because Southampton are trying to take us to the cleaners on Bertrand.
 
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