Danilo

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Maybe Pep can make him good (again? - I never saw him at Porto)

He wouldn't be the first good player to go to R.Madrid and not deal with it as well as hoped.

Gotta say I'd rather he cover both RB and LB than see us throw another chunk of money on a backup LB. Maybe, if Kolarov leaves, we use that money on someone like Laporte who can play LB if we're in a position where Mendy (hopefully) and Walker (and Fernandinho) are out
 
I've not seen him play and though youtube can hide a myriad of faults you can't do that without a modicum of talent.
Exactly my thoughts. The glimpses of talent combined with his Porto reputation and 30m transfer to Madrid there has to be a good player there. If you don't hit the ground running in Madrid the fans quickly turn so I'm hoping he's just never settled, which could be a big possibility.
 
Exactly my thoughts. The glimpses of talent combined with his Porto reputation and 30m transfer to Madrid there has to be a good player there. If you don't hit the ground running in Madrid the fans quickly turn so I'm hoping he's just never settled, which could be a big possibility.
Yes, keeping my fingers crossed and hoping he settles as consistency is pretty important in defense .
 
I'm concerned, hearing from lots of people saying he's awful. Not just the usual suspects, but the kind that will say if we're signing a good player.

I've never seen him personally, but yeah... worried.

Two years ago Real were so desperate to sign him, they lumped in before the window even opened. He was consider just about the best rightback in the country.

If he's motivated he could be a really good addition.
 
He's a LB RM used him as a RB (hence his poor performance) perhaps Pep and City wanted lock him up incase something happens to Mendy. He also provides good depth and competition for the other FB.
 
Why do people always say that the whole staff agree with the manager of the day ? Have you asked them ?

Everyone apparently agreed with Pellegrini as well.

And I am not saying I think he's ready to be a full time senior player or that he's suitable for Pep's style. That's upto Pep.

I am saying I'm absolutely certain he was ready to be given more time than he has had, in the first team, two seasons ago. That isn't ready to replace the first choice fullbacks, it's ready to come on, hold his own & learn, which he absolutely proved at the swamp last season.

He could have done similar a year earlier imo, then perhaps Pep could have concentrated on his attacking game last season.

I think his attacking game is probablly not up to Pep's level. Neither is Sagna's or Clichy's. Zabba was clearly past it. They played, Maffeo didn't, but when he did play, he was better than most we had seen at rb. If he'd started a year earlier, Pep would know what he was dealing with.

Kids are never ready. They are an exciting, flawed, adittion to a squad. Sané & Jesus weren't ready, they had & still have, a load of flaws, as does Stones at 20 odd after seasons of top level football. Sterling had loads of flaws when he came in at Liverpool. So did all the raglets under Ferguson. Rashford now has more flaws than things he does right, & plays for England.

It takes a bit of balls to try them & find out. Pellegrini had none & didn't care.

Pep has, but is left with very few known quantities at 19-20 years, to work with.

Danilo is an easier choice.

Okay, fair enough. Lets say it was decided as a collective then that it's best for him to be elsewhere and isn't ready. You could be right, maybe some disagreed and think he is ready but obviously not enough of them did or they wasn't convinced enough to influence and convince Pep to keep him. At the very least, Pep didn't think he was ready and that's ultimately what matters the most. If Pep, or enough of the team thought otherwise, he'd be in America right now there's no getting away from that.

You're entitled to think that, you can be as certain as you want but why hasn't it happened if that's actually the case? You can say Pellegrini wasn't one for taking risks, i'll accept that, but Pep will give youth a chance. However, he's absolutely clear that he won't give them a chance for the sake of it, they have to be good enough and earn it, he's said it many times, even the chairman said it in his end of season interview, we won't compromise on quality. Again, if Maffeo was good enough, he'd be with the team now.

I think you're lending far too much weight to that game against United. He played well but it's one game, there's countless examples of kids that have performed great for a handful of games then are never seen again, why? Because they often get through on adrenaline and simply can't find that level consistently to establish themselves. I do agree that performance seemed to warrant another chance but we have no idea what goes on a day to day basis. They're training every single day and he was training with the first team before he was sent on loan, There's no logical reason for him not getting a game other than the assumption that he simply wasn't performing better than others in training.

Nobody is saying he needs to be the perfect flawless player from the get-go, they simply need to show that they are currently better than any other option we have or even just the second best option to make the squad.

He's at Girona now, we'll get to see him playing week in week out in La Liga, against a good standard of opposition and we'll see entirely risk free whether he can handle that level. If he can, he'll be judged and a decision will be made on whether he's good enough for our squad or whether he's to be tested at a better level further still, and if he's not then it's a bullet dodged that could otherwise had been costly.

If this were something specific to us, i'd accept you may have a case but It's not like we're the only club that do this with the kids either, almost all the top teams in Europe do exactly the same thing. You very rarely see a player come in from nowhere and just chucked in at the deep end unless they've either had a loan or multiple loans first, are in a competition they don't care about, have nothing left to play for or injuries have forced it upon them. It's even rarer still, that they actually hold their own and establish themselves in that side. Why do they all do it? Because there's no risk, no downside to it and it works.

Danilo may be the easier choice, but he's always the better choice.
 
Makes sense.

I will be astonished if we spend £150m+ on fullbacks this summer.
I just don't believe anyone can play to a high standard in 3 positions,unless he is 2 footed,i would think it will be a fullback and the other 2 positions if we really have to
 
Walker/Mendy + Danilo, still seems a little light for FBs.
If (and its a big if the rumours are true about Kolarov leaving) and we were to get in a left centre back who could play full back I think it would be a decent mix.
 
I just don't believe anyone can play to a high standard in 3 positions,unless he is 2 footed,i would think it will be a fullback and the other 2 positions if we really have to
Have a look at the video posted a couple of pages back. Playing RB, cutting in and rocketing goals in with his left peg.

I like the unpredictability that presents, either crossing it in, slipping it through for somebody else or having a dig with his left. Defenders are going to have nightmares.
 
If (and its a big if the rumours are true about Kolarov leaving) and we were to get in a left centre back who could play full back I think it would be a decent mix.

Sorta like what Pep wanted from Laporte last summer with articles coming out about how he would deploy him, so fucking mad he backed out since he's perfect for a Pep team.

Even if kola goes Fern can offer cover if required. Stones has played left back before. There are contingencies there.

Stones would get murdered at LB.
 
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