David Silva...

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C Velz said:
jollylescott said:
C Velz said:
What could David Silva do that Iniesta or Ribéry can't do?
Generally I don't have a problem with supporters of other clubs contributing to this Forum. For those that are not aware you are a Real Sociedad supporter.
However as others have said you do have a Wum tendency, and on this occasion this is a very clear example.
Why don't you spend your time on your own club forum, rather than stirring the pot here.
Why do you think I am winding people up? Silva is a key player to Manchester City - a very good footballer as I have stated already. But is his skill-set so unique that he is "irreplaceable"? I honestly don't think so, and that's why I think he can be replaced - not by some average footballer, but two of the most skilled footballers in the world. If you think I am wrong or disagree, feel free to disagree, mate. I'm not trying to be inflammatory.


I think what people miss who don't get to see him inthe flesh is his constant desire to get the team moving, its often lost on tv the effort he puts in. We may be a be able to replace him, but nothing is guaranteed and I just couldn't see any other player with his ability level ready to put a hard shift in for City.

He came here humble and he will one day leave here humble and that's David Silva, a world star playing for City, not barca or bayern and putting in a shift day in day out.......how many true world star name would fancy that on a rainy monday night? Thats the difference mate.
 
I don't think it's something that requires seeing him in the flesh, even though I have seen him play quite a few times for Valencia. He is not really a unique footballer, but his playing style is one that would be welcomed at any club.

To me, there are different types of attacking midfielders - the "assist poacher" like Özil, the "goal-getter" like Mkhitaryan, and the "build-up specialist" like Silva. He's the perfect type of player to link up the play from the middle to front, someone who provides a direct burst of skill to counter Touré's brilliant deep-passing skills - something that is weirdly overlooked by many fans of other clubs.

Would I say that Silva is a complete attacking midfielder? Not really; he, like Iniesta and Özil amongst others are quite poor with their shooting abilities. From what I have seen of Silva, he isn't the breed of player to consistently support a defence like a left midfielder would in a 4-4-2 - although Pellegrini's system is different, the midfield is not balanced, something I see as a flaw.

But he provides something that other types of attacking midfielders don't. Özil for instance doesn't provide the same abilities deeper in the pitch that Silva does, but he has such incredible vision in the final third that compensates for his deficiencies. When played with "runners" - Cristiano, Walcott, Müller - he's a joy to watch although he is a peripheral type.

Silva isn't. Just like Iniesta, who would be my ideal comparison player. Silky touch on the ball, can wriggle out of danger, is brilliant linking-up play, but just doesn't have the finishing touch.

Theoretically - where I was coming from - Silva is not an irreplaceable player. There are footballers like him, some more refined than others, who can take charge of the left "wing" and provide a key creative outlet, like Silva. Realistically - which is where the others come from - Manchester City won't be able to sign these players. So he is irreplaceable in that case, I guess.
 
C Velz said:
I don't think it's something that requires seeing him in the flesh, even though I have seen him play quite a few times for Valencia. He is not really a unique footballer, but his playing style is one that would be welcomed at any club.

To me, there are different types of attacking midfielders - the "assist poacher" like Özil, the "goal-getter" like Mkhitaryan, and the "build-up specialist" like Silva. He's the perfect type of player to link up the play from the middle to front, someone who provides a direct burst of skill to counter Touré's brilliant deep-passing skills - something that is weirdly overlooked by many fans of other clubs.

Would I say that Silva is a complete attacking midfielder? Not really; he, like Iniesta and Özil amongst others are quite poor with their shooting abilities. From what I have seen of Silva, he isn't the breed of player to consistently support a defence like a left midfielder would in a 4-4-2 - although Pellegrini's system is different, the midfield is not balanced, something I see as a flaw.

But he provides something that other types of attacking midfielders don't. Özil for instance doesn't provide the same abilities deeper in the pitch that Silva does, but he has such incredible vision in the final third that compensates for his deficiencies. When played with "runners" - Cristiano, Walcott, Müller - he's a joy to watch although he is a peripheral type.

Silva isn't. Just like Iniesta, who would be my ideal comparison player. Silky touch on the ball, can wriggle out of danger, is brilliant linking-up play, but just doesn't have the finishing touch.

Theoretically - where I was coming from - Silva is not an irreplaceable player. There are footballers like him, some more refined than others, who can take charge of the left "wing" and provide a key creative outlet, like Silva. Realistically - which is where the others come from - Manchester City won't be able to sign these players. So he is irreplaceable in that case, I guess.

Did you try and claim that Ribery could replace Silva earlier in this thread? Let's throw Ibrahimovic in to replace Yaya Toure too. If Silva added shooting to his game then perhaps the more simple minded type of football fan like yourself would notice him a bit more. There are probably 2 players in world football who can do the job that Silva does, as well as he does it. I suggest you watch (or rewatch) our game away at Bayern earlier in the season to see just how good he is at what he does. This doesn't mean that David Silva is the best player in the world (although he's up around the top 10) but what it does mean is that this type of player has a particular niche. Very, very few players will come over to England, similar to David Silva and play as well as he has. So no, he won't be easy to replace.
 
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C Velz said:
"build-up specialist" like Silva. He's the perfect type of player to link up the play from the middle to front, someone who provides a direct burst of skill

C Velz said:
Would I say that Silva is a complete attacking midfielder? Not really; he, like Iniesta and Özil amongst others are quite poor with their shooting abilities. From what I have seen of Silva, he isn't the breed of player to consistently support a defence like a left midfielder would in a 4-4-2 - although Pellegrini's system is different, the midfield is not balanced, something I see as a flaw.

C Velz said:
But he provides something that other types of attacking midfielders don't. Silva isn't. Just like Iniesta, who would be my ideal comparison player. Silky touch on the ball, can wriggle out of danger, is brilliant linking-up play, but just doesn't have the finishing touch.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMduiP0JFL8[/youtube]

Watch this and try to tell me how I am wrong. I dare you. Are you

And yes, Ribéry can do anything Silva can do, and still score more goals. Is it an insult to not be better than arguably the second best footballer in the world?
 
C Velz said:
C Velz said:
"build-up specialist" like Silva. He's the perfect type of player to link up the play from the middle to front, someone who provides a direct burst of skill

C Velz said:
Would I say that Silva is a complete attacking midfielder? Not really; he, like Iniesta and Özil amongst others are quite poor with their shooting abilities. From what I have seen of Silva, he isn't the breed of player to consistently support a defence like a left midfielder would in a 4-4-2 - although Pellegrini's system is different, the midfield is not balanced, something I see as a flaw.

C Velz said:
But he provides something that other types of attacking midfielders don't. Silva isn't. Just like Iniesta, who would be my ideal comparison player. Silky touch on the ball, can wriggle out of danger, is brilliant linking-up play, but just doesn't have the finishing touch.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMduiP0JFL8[/youtube]

Watch this and try to tell me how I am wrong. I dare you. Are you

And yes, Ribéry can do anything Silva can do, and still score more goals. Is it an insult to not be better than arguably the second best footballer in the world?

You just don't get it do you? Go show me an assist from Ribery as good as the one above by David Silva.
 
So you can't tell me I am wrong. Instead you argue something completely irrelevant to the debate at hand. Well done, mate. Everything I have said about David Silva is the truth.

"Simple-minded football fan like you" - brilliant stuff. Try insulting someone who won't expose your idiocy on an Internet forum.
 
C Velz said:
What could David Silva do that Iniesta or Ribéry can't do?

*Shows David Silva assist and asks to be shown a better Ribery assist.* Gets this response...

C Velz said:
So you can't tell me I am wrong. Instead you argue something completely irrelevant to the debate at hand. Well done, mate. Everything I have said about David Silva is the truth.

"Simple-minded football fan like you" - brilliant stuff. Try insulting someone who won't expose your idiocy on an Internet forum.

Oh gosh, please don't expose my idiocy like that again!
 
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