David Silva...

[880125]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

I've watched City since 1956, and as good as Johnnie Crossan, Bobby Johnstone, and Colin Bell were (to name but three) David Silva is the best player I have ever seen in a City shirt. With Merlin we compete for trophies, if he was not with us, we would be a competing for 4th place in the league. He is that good.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

Yes. Silva is that good.

He was the best player on the pitch against Barca and in both legs against Bayern. The bigger the opponents, the more he rises to the occasion. He's one of the best five players in the world for me.

We have got three players who would get into a world squad now. Aguero, Kompany and Silva. But Silva is the jewel in the crown for me because he can take hold of matches single-handedly. Pellegrini got it right last week: "the best player of the final ball I have ever seen".

 

[oakiecokie]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

Has to be Yaya for me sorry. I believe history will show him to be our most significant player in modern times. Remember, according to Garry Cook, there is no Silva without Yaya.

Kind of agree with this ^^^^

Yaya's main problem is that when he is slightly off or needs to catch breath, or recover from a tackle fall, he looks lethargic, lazy Of which he is neither.

Bell was fantastic and yes I did see him play many times, massively influential and possibly more consistent but at absolute best it's A close thing between him Colin and Yaya.

It really depends upon the occasion as much as anything, big game - Yaya, David and Colin in that order! though to be fair Colin hasn't had the opportunity to play in such a fantastic team. Good discussion though.

I know its all about opinions but if you actually saw Colin play,then how on earth can you place him behind Toure and David ?? No comparison and he was by far and away the most complete footballer,compaired to the other two players.
I can only assume you saw Colin after his injury ??

 

[jimbopm]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

Has to be Yaya for me sorry. I believe history will show him to be our most significant player in modern times. Remember, according to Garry Cook, there is no Silva without Yaya.

That's a very different argument, though?

Yaya, the most significant? Alongside Tevez, I would probably agree.

Think Cook was stating Silva would not have joined if Yaya had not agreed to sign?

Which is Cook's roundabout way of saying Silva is a level above anyone we have.

If we are talking about the best, I put Silva out on his own at present.

The great thing is, we have a few jockeying for position and the future looks immense.

Instead of talking about one man in Bell, we could be talking about guys who are certainly above Lee and Summerbee, when it comes to Yaya, Aguero and Kompany.

Stupendous.

Obviously it's a subjective case and I wasn't alive when Colin Bell graced the Maine Road turf but I'd still go for Yaya. If you're talking of stamina, goals from midfield, adaptable, and a big game player. I think Yaya has those qualities in more abundance than Silva. But you're right, it's great that we can debate about which player in this current team is as good as our greatest ever. 15 years ago we would be arguing about whether our players were fit enough to wash Colin Bell's car!

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

Can't believe the amount of people saying Yaya. Great player at times, but not as "gifted" as Silva. If I had to place our players in order of "who would I most not want to lose" it would be

1) Silva
2) Kompany
3) Aguero
4) Ya Ya

 

[jimbopm]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

I can't believe those who say Yaya isn't as gifted as Silva. Name me one thing that Silva can do that Yaya can't.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

Can't believe the amount of people saying Yaya. Great player at times, but not as "gifted" as Silva. If I had to place our players in order of "who would I most not want to lose" it would be

1) Silva
2) Kompany
3) Aguero
4) Ya Ya

You could argue Yaya is either at his peak or will be coming down the other side of that hill over the next 18 months.

I also put Aguero ahead of Yaya, and do believe, much as he is a great player, Yaya may be easier to replace than say any of the others on your list?

The scary thing is that Kompany is only 27 and the more trophies he leads us to, the more his legend will be cemented, despite not have the glamour of an attacking player.

Silva has just turned 28 and it's quite ridiculous that Aguero is only 25.

I do believe if Aguero sticks around for another three years we could have a candidate for the world footballer of the year.

 

[jay_mcfc]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

He regressed a little later in the Mancini era but tho season he has been magnificent. He's heading into his prime now and that can only strike fear into the premier league and europe. If he can stay fit and learn to finish better he will be talked about as one of the best in the world.

 

[proudbear]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

In my opinion each of those players is pretty much the same on importance and each have been our 'best player'. All have been integral to our rise in different ways.

Kompany = Toure = Silva = Aguero.

 

[OB1]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

Controversial but I think nasri has been the better of the two this season and more integral to our new style....

Great player though, a joy to watch....

Nasri would be my player of the season if it all stopped now but I do not think he is quite as good as Silva.

Is Silva the best since Bell? The only competitors for that accolade are Yaya, Kun and maybe Vinnie but the latter cannot match the skill on the ball of the other three.

The combination of Yaya, Silva, Nasri and Aguero is one that is rivaled only by the Spanish giants and Bayern, IMO.

If pressed, my pick is still Yaya.<br /><br />-- Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:30 pm --<br /><br />

Can't believe the amount of people saying Yaya. Great player at times, but not as "gifted" as Silva. If I had to place our players in order of "who would I most not want to lose" it would be

1) Silva
2) Kompany
3) Aguero
4) Ya Ya

Dave,

Yaya has strengths that Spanish Dave doesn't. It's a close call.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

I can't believe those who say Yaya isn't as gifted as Silva. Name me one thing that Silva can do that Yaya can't.

Are you serious?

Create space from nothing
Kill the ball in tight situations
Shield the ball using his balance
See players making runs
Weight passes

Ya Ya himself will tell you he does all those things better than him. Ya Ya is about power, Silva is about grace.

 

[Proelia]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

If kun stays he will be by far and away the best

 

[Bill]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

I have seen numerous threads in the past talking about where the likes of Yaya and Aguero stand in terms of greatness, alongside Bell and such, all more than valid.

I would just like to state in my 30 years of watching City, I have never seen a player as good as David Silva.

I've have heard all the pros and cons, he doesn't score enough goals etc.

His performance against Barcelona the other night was the greatest, most technically perfect performance I have seen from anyone in a City shirt.

His passing, his control under pressure, his ability to take the likes of Xavi and Iniesta out of the play with a turn of his body - absolutely majestic.

At Bayern, earlier this season and twice against Madrid, he was also the stand-out player on the pitch.

Bell was before my time, but up there with the King?

I'm old enough to have seen both and without doubt silva is the closest thing to colin we've ever had. can't split tbh.

 

[ForzaMancini]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

Going to get accused of being a rag but on Ragcafe they were drooling over Silva's performance against Barca, getting comparisons to Zidane with the general consensus he was a class above Ozil and even their very own Mata.

Hard to separate him from Yaya, Kompany and Tevez while Aguero will also be a close comparison soon but he is certainly one of our greatest ever players and possible the best of our players post-Mansour.

 

[blueyorkie]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

I'm not sure that the original poster was wanting us to make comparisons , as I say they are entirely different types of players. I assume that the left footed thing is a piss take or alternatively a rag.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

I can't believe those who say Yaya isn't as gifted as Silva. Name me one thing that Silva can do that Yaya can't.

Are you serious?

Create space from nothing
Kill the ball in tight situations
Shield the ball using his balance
See players making runs
Weight passes

Ya Ya himself will tell you he does all those things better than him. Ya Ya is about power, Silva is about grace.

When I read that post these were the things that came in to my head also

 

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

Can't believe the amount of people saying Yaya. Great player at times, but not as "gifted" as Silva. If I had to place our players in order of "who would I most not want to lose" it would be

1) Silva
2) Kompany
3) Aguero
4) Ya Ya

Kompany only rivals yaya for importance and team psychology, meaning we survive without silva, take the other 2 out and we are powder puff..... WhEn on song I've never seen a player in my time as a blue control a game like yaya can, he beats 80% of the league mentally before he's stepped on the pitch!!!!

 

[OB1]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

I can't believe those who say Yaya isn't as gifted as Silva. Name me one thing that Silva can do that Yaya can't.

Are you serious?

Create space from nothing
Kill the ball in tight situations
Shield the ball using his balance
See players making runs
Weight passes

Ya Ya himself will tell you he does all those things better than him. Ya Ya is about power, Silva is about grace.

Yaya can be quite graceful at times. There was one turn with two Chelsea players bearing down on him the other day that almost defied belief that he could come out with the ball.

He can certainly see players making runs and weight passes. He isn't as creative as Dave or as deft but he can take the ball from his own half deep into the opposing box and he finishes much better than Dave.

Yaya is also a better defender when he chooses to be. He did some very fine work against Barca.

Yaya is, IMO, the most complete footballer we have had at City since The King.

 

[jimbopm]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

I can't believe those who say Yaya isn't as gifted as Silva. Name me one thing that Silva can do that Yaya can't.

Are you serious?

Create space from nothing
Kill the ball in tight situations
Shield the ball using his balance
See players making runs
Weight passes

Ya Ya himself will tell you he does all those things better than him. Ya Ya is about power, Silva is about grace.

When I read that post these were the things that came in to my head also

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxpZHqK3KVg[/youtube]

I must be watching a different player

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

Yaya has strengths that Spanish Dave doesn't. It's a close call.

He does, OB, as I hinted above. Yaya can bully people. He can get goals. He can barge holes in defences.

But I contend that Silva would be a much bigger loss to us than Ya Ya. Silva influences more games, more times that Ya Ya.

I appreciate we are comparing apples with oranges.<br /><br />-- Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:44 pm --<br /><br />

Can't believe the amount of people saying Yaya. Great player at times, but not as "gifted" as Silva. If I had to place our players in order of "who would I most not want to lose" it would be

1) Silva
2) Kompany
3) Aguero
4) Ya Ya

Kompany only rivals yaya for importance and team psychology, meaning we survive without silva, take the other 2 out and we are powder puff..... WhEn on song I've never seen a player in my time as a blue control a game like yaya can, he beats 80% of the league mentally before he's stepped on the pitch!!!!

I honestly understand, and I don't want this to seem like I'm being negative about Ya Ya. He's a huge miss when he's not around.

But if he were to go I think we could go and spend £30-40m and replace him, without going backwards. You could even argue we did, with Fernandinho.

I'm not sure we could with Silva. I think he's priceless now. I think he's the best playmaker in the world.