David Silva...

[Blue Til Death]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

If City fans are talking about Silva and all our other fantastic players in 40 years time I may (if I was still alive) just concede a millimetre of ground.
I sincerely hope we will be, as it stands though CB is out on his own by a City mile... !

 

[r.soleofsalford]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

two completely different types of player colin bell was more in the gerrard style but imo better.


i`ve never seen a player able to receive a ball at any speed and have it immediately under control, brilliant at passing, dribbling and making space for himself and team mates

 

[Shaelumstash]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

I think the difference is - if you were a team that was struggling which would you rather have? The answer is Bell. Why? Well because he can literally carry a team and win a game - I think Silva is a genius but in a struggling team he could put it on a plate time and time again but they still might not score, Bell could win the ball, run up the pitch and bury it in the back of the neck. Bell is to City what Gerrard has been for Liverpool. Silva is a luxury we can afford, and a class act but I think that would be the difference. The same reasoning as to why Ronaldo is better than Messi - because he can do it for club and country, regardless of the league and Messi has never shown his talent beyond the Barca shirt.

Did you know that Messi has scored more goals in less games for Argentina than Maradona? It's a bit of a myth that Messi hasn't played well at international level.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

I remember the fantastic times in the late 60's when we were at the top of our game and winning everything, and I remember CB as being fantastic back then. But I was only 7 or so years old and honestly I think the rose coloured glasses may be putting a rosy shine on everything.

Would CB look so incredible in today's team? I am not sure he would. It's hard to think of a sport where the modern sportsman of today is not superior to those of a few decades back. With the better training, facilities, medical staff, diet and nutrition etc sportsmen today are usually better.

 

[christened at st marks]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

I remember the fantastic times in the late 60's when we were at the top of our game and winning everything, and I remember CB as being fantastic back then. But I was only 7 or so years old and honestly I think the rose coloured glasses may be putting a rosy shine on everything.

Would CB look so incredible in today's team? I am not sure he would. It's hard to think of a sport where the modern sportsman of today is not superior to those of a few decades back. With the better training, facilities, medical staff, diet and nutrition etc sportsmen today are usually better.

If he was in the team against Barca they would have been fucked as you say you were only 7, it wasn't your specs mate just the best cherish the memory he was that good.

 

[hihosilva]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

I have seen numerous threads in the past talking about where the likes of Yaya and Aguero stand in terms of greatness, alongside Bell and such, all more than valid.

I would just like to state in my 30 years of watching City, I have never seen a player as good as David Silva.

I've have heard all the pros and cons, he doesn't score enough goals etc.

His performance against Barcelona the other night was the greatest, most technically perfect performance I have seen from anyone in a City shirt.

His passing, his control under pressure, his ability to take the likes of Xavi and Iniesta out of the play with a turn of his body - absolutely majestic.

At Bayern, earlier this season and twice against Madrid, he was also the stand-out player on the pitch.

Bell was before my time, but up there with the King?

Technically he is as far as im concerned the best player i have ever seen in a City shirt. His ability to turn on a sixpence and dribble away from a defender is so beautiful to watch.Then his awareness, vision & passing is just top draw.
Coiln Bell was a fantastic player but alot different to Silva. He was a box to box midfielder, something you dont see these days and could run all day, the reason for the nick name Nijinsky and a better goalscorer.

 

[Thenumber1blue]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

Has to be Yaya for me sorry. I believe history will show him to be our most significant player in modern times. Remember, according to Garry Cook, there is no Silva without Yaya.

Yeah,course it's Yaya,he's the fuckin master !

 

[Danamy]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

It's a real pub type debate this one and it'll all come down to your age or how you like the game to be played?

I'm not old enough to remember Bell but i respect those that say how good he was at that period in our history.

If you like power and brute strength then Yaya is your man

If you like pace and finishing then Sergio is your man

but

If you like technical ability, finesse and vision then Silva is your man (i fall in to this category)
I want him to have the ball all the time because i love watching him play the game, it's the only way i can put in to words how good i think he is.
He reminds me of a small Zidane at times the way his feet caresses the ball and then he does that reverse inside ball, most people know it's coming but still fail to stop it.

Class player and long may he continue to wear our shirt

 

[Bluesiam]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

two completely different types of player colin bell was more in the gerrard style but imo better.


i`ve never seen a player able to receive a ball at any speed and have it immediately under control, brilliant at passing, dribbling and making space for himself and team mates

This quote could be almost equally applicable to Colin Bell, David Silva or Yaya Toure.

Dave gets a little more exposure Yaya based on where he plays up the field.

All almost never gave the ball away... great awareness in crowded spaces. Bell wins hands down for stamina, but Yaya for strength. Yaya's and Dave's tight control is also incredible and a little better than Colin's.

As an all rounder Colin is the King. But when it comes to influencing games, Yaya for me does it though. He pips Silva with his finishing. He edges Bell just a **** hair with the timing and weight of his passes. Dave would be sorely missed, but not as much as King Yaya.

 

[malg]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

It's a real pub type debate this one and it'll all come down to your age or how you like the game to be played?

I'm not old enough to remember Bell but i respect those that say how good he was at that period in our history.

If you like power and brute strength then Yaya is your man

If you like pace and finishing then Sergio is your man

but

If you like technical ability, finesse and vision then Silva is your man (i fall in to this category)
I want him to have the ball all the time because i love watching him play the game, it's the only way i can put in to words how good i think he is.
He reminds me of a small Zidane at times the way his feet caresses the ball and then he does that reverse inside ball, most people know it's coming but still fail to stop it.

Class player and long may he continue to wear our shirt

I reckon Yaya has plenty of technical ability and vision, however for me Silva just appears more 'silky/sublime/effortless'- don't know how else to say it.

Not bad for £24m.

 

[Deleted member 58678]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

I think Nasri is just as good at this football lark as Silva.

Both FANTASTIC players.

 

[Blue2112]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

Yaya for me is the nearest to Bell and the most influential player this current City side has and we have a few. His one touch passing with either foot without even thinking about it under pressure or in space is sublime and a joy to watch. It's so simple yet effective, he has a deft touch sweeping the ball sideways at will or majestic long balls dropped on a penny. He drives the team forwards with either gut bursting runs or small tippy tappy triangles that dovetail with both Silva and Nasri perfectly and his goals are always important goals. he's a beats of a footballer unstopable and unplayable on his day. In our title winning season I came on here after the Newcastle home win mid season and said we would win the title and it was because watching Yaya I saw a City side for the first time ever having the ability to change tempo in mid-flow and go through the gears. It really was something to behold.

 

[bluemanc]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pL_eO5rlpo[/youtube]
This was probably Colin Bells greatest ever performance in a City shirt.
Semi final 1-0 down from the 1st leg against a crackin Schalke team.
He drove us on that night & was pivotal in everything we did.
Shame the vids so short it doesn't do him justice,that team should have been built on & won a lot more.
David Silva is a fantastic player & one day he might be talked about in the same way,if he stays for another 3 seasons that could happen.

 

[malg]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pL_eO5rlpo[/youtube]
This was probably Colin Bells greatest ever performance in a City shirt.
Semi final 1-0 down from the 1st leg against a crackin Schalke team.
He drove us on that night & was pivotal in everything we did.
Shame the vids so short it doesn't do him justice,that team should have been built on & won a lot more.
David Silva is a fantastic player & one day he might be talked about in the same way,if he stays for another 3 seasons that could happen.

Utter shite.........the only player, in the history of football, who has ever had an influence on a European semi final game is Roy Keane. Now go and take a long rest!

 

[Blue Til Death]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pL_eO5rlpo[/youtube]
This was probably Colin Bells greatest ever performance in a City shirt.
Semi final 1-0 down from the 1st leg against a crackin Schalke team.
He drove us on that night & was pivotal in everything we did.
Shame the vids so short it doesn't do him justice,that team should have been built on & won a lot more.
David Silva is a fantastic player & one day he might be talked about in the same way,if he stays for another 3 seasons that could happen.

Great goal, just a quick shake of hands then back to the centre circle to start again.. I loved that era..!

 

[sir baconface]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

Great debate this, I was actually thinking about this after the Barca game. Bell was before my time, but it seems they were very different players.

Can I just ask those that have seen both - What would Silva have to do to be remembered as our greatest ever player?

If we went on to win multiple league and European titles and he carried on at this level for another 6 or 7 years, do you think he'd be remembered as the best player ever to play for the club?

Or do you think that because Bell was such a complete player and so influential, that Silva could never achieve that greatness?

That's an easy one. The thing that separates them most is goal-scoring. If Merlin added that dimension he would be more widely recognised as one of the world's top players. (We City fans know that anyway).

The other thing of course is that Bell had a more extended City career. Contenders from the current crop need to shine for longer to dislodge him. Longevity is a key factor.

 

[proudbear]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

We are blessed to have Silva come here and reach his prime. Same with Toure, Kompany and Aguero.

Just think:

Silva 24M, 50-60M now
Toure 24M, 30-40M now
Aguero 37M, 60M now
Kompany 8M, 30-40M now

And they say we buy the league.

 

[Bill]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

I dont think he means discipline in that way mate

Well how does he mean then?

-- Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:14 pm --

I dont think he means discipline in that way mate

Well how does he mean then?

I cant speak for the man but he cant mean in that way because well he would just be wrong and if he does he is just wrong

I do mean it that way, yaya is always niggling, he's petulant and lucky to stay on the pitch at times. Kompany saved his bacon the other day.

 

[Shaelumstash]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

Great debate this, I was actually thinking about this after the Barca game. Bell was before my time, but it seems they were very different players.

Can I just ask those that have seen both - What would Silva have to do to be remembered as our greatest ever player?

If we went on to win multiple league and European titles and he carried on at this level for another 6 or 7 years, do you think he'd be remembered as the best player ever to play for the club?

Or do you think that because Bell was such a complete player and so influential, that Silva could never achieve that greatness?

That's an easy one. The thing that separates them most is goal-scoring. If Merlin added that dimension he would be more widely recognised as one of the world's top players. (We City fans know that anyway).

The other thing of course is that Bell had a more extended City career. Contenders from the current crop need to shine for longer to dislodge him. Longevity is a key factor.

So would you say if Silva continues playing at this level for us for the next 5 or 6 seasons and we win important trophies in that time that he could be talked about as the greatest ever?

The season we won the FA Cup I thought Tevez had a shout of that, if he'd kept his head down and not been such a balloon. His form really dropped off last season though, while Silva has maintained the same incredible level the whole time he's been here.

Great quote from Pellegrini about Silva delivering the best through ball he's ever seen, got to say I agree.

 

[Bill]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pL_eO5rlpo[/youtube]
This was probably Colin Bells greatest ever performance in a City shirt.
Semi final 1-0 down from the 1st leg against a crackin Schalke team.
He drove us on that night & was pivotal in everything we did.
Shame the vids so short it doesn't do him justice,that team should have been built on & won a lot more.
David Silva is a fantastic player & one day he might be talked about in the same way,if he stays for another 3 seasons that could happen.

was there that night. what a night that was. they were some side back then but we were just awesome.