glen quagmire
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Johnsonontheleft said:is starting to remind me of Garry Flitcroft. He only ever passes sideways or backwards, and it really slows us down.
You're starting to remind me of paulpowre.
Johnsonontheleft said:is starting to remind me of Garry Flitcroft. He only ever passes sideways or backwards, and it really slows us down.
liscal said:I guess the game's about opinions, but I really dispair at some. In my own humble opinion, Nige is THE best around at his role. I wouldn't swap him for anyone.
Lol! I missed this! Go ahead, do it big :PJoycee Banercheck said:It's not like he's been injured for weeks or owt. He should have taken Kiev on his own. Anyway,. I'm off to take my man crush on NDJ global.
ElanJo said:forevermancity said:NDJ is class, he doesn't slow us down at all, who else in the world does his job better than him? No one.
Mascherano
If Masherano were here and De Jong at Hamburg. Your opinion will be different. Why can't folks see that :?SWP's back said:ElanJo said:Mascherano
I'd take De Jong over him all day.
I agree with your last sentence. Ultimately it is a team game and if the whole team doesn't perform then you'll never see the full potential of it bear fruit.Dax777 said:And I don't blame De Jong for that either. But in the last 2 games, he seems to have been a prominent reason. The player(s) bogging down quick ball movement may change from week to week. The fallacy i here is that it always has to be someone in particular, A person who's demotion will change things. Sometimes it is just a guy you like too. In the last 2 games it was De Jong. There was a tine at the height of Tevez goalscoring orgy, when he, Tevez, was mostly at fault for the bogdown. Doesn't mean we should get rid of Tevez. Just simply means, he played a significant role.Joycee Banercheck said:We have knocked it about slowly for weeks.. when DJ was injured, so he isn't the unknown variable in your equation, pal.
If we knew the answer to question 2, then we'd have won the league by now.
The unfortunate reaction from most fans is to find a way to blame it on players they don't like. I.e. if say they like Dzeko and he is not scoring, they argue SWP and AJ don't give him enough balls. If Tevez is going into midfield and holding up play, they claim it is because the midfielders are not doing there jobs, so he is frustrated and force to come to the middle. Similarly you must have seen arguments claiming it is because Yaya and Milner are not doing there jobs, that is why De Jong slows play down. :(
These are the reactions I fight against. Everyone should take their own part in the problem, regardless of affection.
johnmc said:liscal said:I guess the game's about opinions, but I really dispair at some. In my own humble opinion, Nige is THE best around at his role. I wouldn't swap him for anyone.
His role? There arent many players who play his role though? So being the best at something not many people do isnt that good a thing is it?
Joycee Banercheck said:I agree with your last sentence. Ultimately it is a team game and if the whole team doesn't perform then you'll never see the full potential of it bear fruit.Dax777 said:And I don't blame De Jong for that either. But in the last 2 games, he seems to have been a prominent reason. The player(s) bogging down quick ball movement may change from week to week. The fallacy i here is that it always has to be someone in particular, A person who's demotion will change things. Sometimes it is just a guy you like too. In the last 2 games it was De Jong. There was a tine at the height of Tevez goalscoring orgy, when he, Tevez, was mostly at fault for the bogdown. Doesn't mean we should get rid of Tevez. Just simply means, he played a significant role.
The unfortunate reaction from most fans is to find a way to blame it on players they don't like. I.e. if say they like Dzeko and he is not scoring, they argue SWP and AJ don't give him enough balls. If Tevez is going into midfield and holding up play, they claim it is because the midfielders are not doing there jobs, so he is frustrated and force to come to the middle. Similarly you must have seen arguments claiming it is because Yaya and Milner are not doing there jobs, that is why De Jong slows play down. :(
These are the reactions I fight against. Everyone should take their own part in the problem, regardless of affection.
As far as I'm concerned, our defence is sorted. But, and here's where it annoys me, other teams seem to be able to use more than one outlet when they attack. We don't just yet. We do knock it sideways and backwards as if were playing in Serie A. I can't tell you if that is what the players are told to do, or if they do that off their own backs. It's so obvious that it doesn't really get us anywhere when we do it. In fact, the biggest gripe on here (other than Mario at the minute) would possibly be the way we attack teams - some say it is too slow and others say it is patient possession football. I'm of the former opinion, but hope that RM gets another season at least to make this team his own. I do like controlling games, but there is a time and a place for playing square and going for a goal. If we ever find the answer to your second question in the previous post then we'll have cracked it! Fingers crossed we get it nailed asap.