Declan Rice

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SWPISHOME said:
Completely agree. Realistically does Havertz even get in Arsenal's team now?

They are so weak in the midfield area and could really have gone all out on Rice instead of squandering £65m on Havertz.
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Especially given Partey fell off a cliff for the last third of the season and Xhaka is potentially leaving
 
SWPISHOME said:
When have you ever seen City in a "bidding war" under this ownership?

Numerous times over the last 10 years especially if clubs are taking the piss asking for more City just walk away. City have a valuation on a player and that's it.

So stop going on like we can just "bid whatever we want".
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Fucking true colurs coming out now he has seen his arse....just like the other idiot with multiple accounts.
 
Longballutd said:
I just don’t see how his value is so high, absolutely mad offers already made by Arsenal. He’s a distinctly average player in my opinion. I really hope we look elsewhere
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He has been playing for an average West Ham side. Put him in our team under Guardiola, and he can turn out to be the next John Stones, etc.,level-wise. He has the right mindset. He is going to be huge for us.
 
BringBackSwales said:
No but I would say Walker, Stones, KDB etc have turned out pretty fucking well
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Mendy? Danilo? Bravo? And I think it's fair to say that plenty of Arsenal's signings under Arteta have done pretty fucking well too. They wouldn't have been in the box seat in the title race for so long last season otherwise

P.S: KDB wasn't a Pep signing
 
M18CTID said:
Mangala? Bony? As you say, those players above weren't Arteta signings. Martinelli wasn't either but he's turned out to be fantastic value for money. Trossard at £27m is
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Have I missed something? What have Mangala and Bony got to do with anything? If you’re looking for poor City signings there are more recent ones and nobody gets it 100% correct. The art is getting it right 8-9 times out of 10. Our record vs Arsenal over the last 10 years kinda suggests we’ve done better with our scouting. That’s why Liverpool poach our Scouts and steal our database, Southampton take our EDS director (ok that didn’t work too well for them) and Arteta has taken two of our players and is linked with others. Arsenal on the other hand have a throw enough shit at a wall approach. Some was bound to stick.
 
David Kloppesh said:
City's doing it out of spite, apparently
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Arsenal fans have an almost supernatural ability to make everything about them.

This couldn't possibly be because we're losing at least one of the best midfielders on the planet, could it?

No, it's because we're petty and don't like arsenal. Obviously.
 

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  • Post by ironilunga » Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:42 pm
    sendô wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:35 pmIsn't it amazing what happens when an adult club turns up to negotiations.
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    Yep

    Arsenal had a small window of opportunity before the internationals to slap in a 100mil + add ons bid and maybe get a quick deal done. They f****d it and now the grown ups have taken control.
 
not my fault! said:
We could but we do t usually do that. You’ve played your hand, we have said we’ll match it but on better terms. If you up it again say £10m we may match it again but would walk away after that. We are not daft, we set a value in our heads and stick to it, we have walked away many times in the past and I’m convinced we would do again here.
It’ll come down to two factors, a) which package West Ham prefer? b) does Rice want City or Arsenal? I suspect a) is and always will be City’s as we’ll pay it all at once if we needed too and wanted him enough, b) I suspect will be about wages and probably the chances of winning trophies regularly over the term of his contract, again you’d think that’d be with City.
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Im not sure we played our last hand as from yesterday there's talk of a 3rd bid going in. When I meant bidding war, I meant in terms of package offered and payment terms as well to be honest, sorry i didn't make that clear. It's clear you will be able to offer more for that as we are spreading ourselves thin again trying to get multiple transfers over the line.

Big Joe Corrigan said:
That’s not true, we walked away from Maguire and Sanchez due to price. If Rice is too expensive we won’t buy him.
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You were competing against Utd for that. Im not sure we've managed to complete a transfer there was competition for!

BringBackSwales said:
Part of the swing in net spend was the near £100m you gave us last season for 2 squad players. To be fair both great characters but ultimately you bought a striker who doesn’t score prolifically and a left back who can’t really defend. However I grant you that your spending has improved significantly from when buying Aub, Lac and Pepe
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Helped us move up from 5th to 2nd, so they were worth it. Ultimately I think you could be right and if we want to level up again we might need to move on from them, but I'll take improvement in steps even if it's not big strides.
 
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