Goater=Legend
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We would just see the same issues whoever we brought in. They are constantly left alone whilst the other players are high up the pitch
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Defensive Midfielder
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kun
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Rodri was unbelievable during our winning run last year but due to a few tired performances at the end of the season it's been wiped from a lot of fans memories apparently.While possibly we have kept Fernandinho a year too long Rodri is much better than he's given credit for by many on here and will play the majority of games.
Rodri is one of the most underrated City players I've ever known.Rodri was unbelievable during our winning run last year but due to a few tired performances at the end of the season it's been wiped from a lot of fans memories apparently.
decmancity
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I think we are betting big on Lavia or Diego Rosa. Rosa cost a decent fee, whilst he could perform and CFG will bank a profit I think long term one of these lads will make it.
SanPellegrini
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There was a huge gap between our defence and midfield yesterday, and we were very susceptible to counter attacks on all sides of the pitch.
Normally, in this situation, I’d say the problem was the defensive midfielder. And with Fern’s age, and Rodri’s inexperience, that would be a very easy point to push.
However... I don’t think that’s right and I think it does Fern a disservice to say he’s “finished”. We conceded that space because the whole team was intent on pushing up the pitch except the two centre backs. Cancelo and Mendy either pushed ahead on the overlap or sat more narrow but higher up the pitch (there wasn’t a consistent approach, which added to the problem because the centre backs and Fern had to keep guessing whether to protect the centre or the wings). Grealish and Gundo both pushed up because of our lack of a striker, we needed more bodies up top. Ferran, Mahrez and Sterling stayed up top, and were almost pushed up the pitch by our other players, suffocating their space to operate.
When you combine this positioning with a slow “walking pace” style of football (a consequence of our players overcrowding to compensate for our lack of a striker and Spurs’ ability to get men behind the ball), you end up in a familiar pattern: short aimless passing because of suffocated positioning, frustration, push more men up, attempt to play a more direct ball, lose possession, open up for a counter from spurs).
I don’t think Fern or Rodri could be the difference in this scenario.
Normally, in this situation, I’d say the problem was the defensive midfielder. And with Fern’s age, and Rodri’s inexperience, that would be a very easy point to push.
However... I don’t think that’s right and I think it does Fern a disservice to say he’s “finished”. We conceded that space because the whole team was intent on pushing up the pitch except the two centre backs. Cancelo and Mendy either pushed ahead on the overlap or sat more narrow but higher up the pitch (there wasn’t a consistent approach, which added to the problem because the centre backs and Fern had to keep guessing whether to protect the centre or the wings). Grealish and Gundo both pushed up because of our lack of a striker, we needed more bodies up top. Ferran, Mahrez and Sterling stayed up top, and were almost pushed up the pitch by our other players, suffocating their space to operate.
When you combine this positioning with a slow “walking pace” style of football (a consequence of our players overcrowding to compensate for our lack of a striker and Spurs’ ability to get men behind the ball), you end up in a familiar pattern: short aimless passing because of suffocated positioning, frustration, push more men up, attempt to play a more direct ball, lose possession, open up for a counter from spurs).
I don’t think Fern or Rodri could be the difference in this scenario.
wolviedinho
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City play a high risk and reward strategy with the high line and overloading attacks. When the whole unit is on it we win. Once you take 3/4 players out of the starting lineup we struggle.
Counter attack has and always will be a problem in this system. Score early we can sit back and pick teams off. Waste chances and inevitably we will concede at some point.
Risk & Reward but depends on having the correct individuals playing. Time to start picking our best team to get back on track.
Counter attack has and always will be a problem in this system. Score early we can sit back and pick teams off. Waste chances and inevitably we will concede at some point.
Risk & Reward but depends on having the correct individuals playing. Time to start picking our best team to get back on track.
When we lost to Leicester at home last season, they countered us into oblivion.
When we won against them away, with a second string side, we dominated. They barely got a sniff. No counters to worry about.
If we're fit, and play the way we're meant to, then we generally have an easy time. It's once things deviate it goes wrong. When it does, it's normally the DM and the fullbacks that come off looking the worst. Fortunately, most of the time in most seasons, things have gone the way they ought to.
When we won against them away, with a second string side, we dominated. They barely got a sniff. No counters to worry about.
If we're fit, and play the way we're meant to, then we generally have an easy time. It's once things deviate it goes wrong. When it does, it's normally the DM and the fullbacks that come off looking the worst. Fortunately, most of the time in most seasons, things have gone the way they ought to.
Del_Bosque
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DM is probably the most difficult position to play in a Pep side
noway he puts a kid in there.
noway he puts a kid in there.
No idea what the long term solution is.
I am sure Rodri is not it though.
He is not a bad player. He is well suited for the much slower La Liga.
In the Prem though he is far too slow,and wants too much time on the Ball. You press him and he loses the Ball.
We might see Grealish given a go in this role during this season, if Bernado stays.
Will be interesting
I was impressed with Grealish physicalitty.
I am sure Rodri is not it though.
He is not a bad player. He is well suited for the much slower La Liga.
In the Prem though he is far too slow,and wants too much time on the Ball. You press him and he loses the Ball.
We might see Grealish given a go in this role during this season, if Bernado stays.
Will be interesting
I was impressed with Grealish physicalitty.
jamesha
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Did you not see the Euro final - could not pass forwards to save his life - no thanks!Declan Rice might work.