Depression

Take care Bigga. I’ve had some bad times in the last 10 years and wanted to run away and actually thought about living on the streets once just to escape. Keep fighting it man because next week might be a good one. CBT was my saviour. I walked in and my therapist was about 30 years old. My initial reaction was “what the fuck would someone your age know about me and my thoughts”. She was an absolute star and got me to start thinking about things differently. I had anxiety that bad at one point, I thought it was going to kill me. She and the drugs helped tremendously. Four years on and I don’t take them anymore. I still have lots of moments and bad thoughts now and again but not as bad. It can get better however down you feel.
I actually lifted a little for the first time today, reading that. Just less dark for a moment, but it matters.

Thanks.
 
@Millwallawayveteran1988

How do you stop the feeling of flight? It's really strong. Literally been looking for jobs abroad in the last hour.
This question is a hard one. I have these feelings a lot to be honest but I have a family and young daughter so have to convince myself over and over that I am needed where I am regardless of how I feel. What’s your circumstances? Would moving abroad be a big move for you or just you to think about? I know that if I had no responsibility I wouldn’t be living in this country now.
 
This question is a hard one. I have these feelings a lot to be honest but I have a family and young daughter so have to convince myself over and over that I am needed where I am regardless of how I feel. What’s your circumstances? Would moving abroad be a big move for you or just you to think about? I know that if I had no responsibility I wouldn’t be living in this country now.
Mate, I had 2 hours sleep with thoughts running around in my head!

I put earphones in and the thoughts drowned out the sounds!

Been writing cathartic messages today. I'm not sure why, but I feel... more lifted.

A bit like I'm making a clearing. No intention of doing anything, I don't think but it's a bit of an internal battle, right now. Had a cry, been down, been slightly up after writing, but I can see Christmas and new Year with my lads.

I won't lie. I WANT to go, but I'm here.

Here after wishing not to wake. Feels like I'm being punished.

But I'll be here til I'm not, so it's all good.
 
Mate, I had 2 hours sleep with thoughts running around in my head!

I put earphones in and the thoughts drowned out the sounds!

Been writing cathartic messages today. I'm not sure why, but I feel... more lifted.

A bit like I'm making a clearing. No intention of doing anything, I don't think but it's a bit of an internal battle, right now. Had a cry, been down, been slightly up after writing, but I can see Christmas and new Year with my lads.

I won't lie. I WANT to go, but I'm here.

Here after wishing not to wake. Feels like I'm being punished.

But I'll be here til I'm not, so it's all good.
Maybe it’s not a punishment but a reward for what you have to offer.

Keep talking, keep battling. Sleep problems can be part of the problem too. I solved that with a very tearful visit to the doctor who took one look at me after no sleep for 3 days and put me straight on sleepers. They helped no end initially and I still take them now 4 years later although lower doses. Talking to people was absolutely pivotal to me and my recovery.
 
Take care Bigga. I’ve had some bad times in the last 10 years and wanted to run away and actually thought about living on the streets once just to escape. Keep fighting it man because next week might be a good one. CBT was my saviour. I walked in and my therapist was about 30 years old. My initial reaction was “what the fuck would someone your age know about me and my thoughts”. She was an absolute star and got me to start thinking about things differently. I had anxiety that bad at one point, I thought it was going to kill me. She and the drugs helped tremendously. Four years on and I don’t take them anymore. I still have lots of moments and bad thoughts now and again but not as bad. It can get better however down you feel.

Great post. Could you open up on how you personally go about doing this or a few things your therapist gave you tips on? You don't have to disclose if you don't want to.

@Bigga keep your head up, try and get yourself into a routine. I know when I stay up late and live off little sleep, I really start to struggle and it's easy to fall into a bad spiral. Little steps to begin with that will become habits over time. Maybe start with one 5km walk a week, and build that up weekly into other exercise. Explore things you enjoy, rather than planning to do things 100mph and by the book. If you enjoy writing, pick up the pen and write a bit, and stop when you're not enjoying it. Same if you do a workout, you don't need to start by doing a massive HIIT workout or set amount of weights. Just little and often and flood your body with positive endorphins. Keep your head up mate, there's plenty of people in your life who you will mean so much to; and you bring some good energy and humour to this forum from what I've seen.
 
I struggle a lot with apathy/depression from having executive function disorders - autism and ADD.

It’s seemingly impossible to initiate tasks, stay focused, remember things and maintain relationships. Antidepressants fail to work because it’s a dopamine and norepinephrine dysfunction.
 
Great post. Could you open up on how you personally go about doing this or a few things your therapist gave you tips on? You don't have to disclose if you don't want to.

@Bigga keep your head up, try and get yourself into a routine. I know when I stay up late and live off little sleep, I really start to struggle and it's easy to fall into a bad spiral. Little steps to begin with that will become habits over time. Maybe start with one 5km walk a week, and build that up weekly into other exercise. Explore things you enjoy, rather than planning to do things 100mph and by the book. If you enjoy writing, pick up the pen and write a bit, and stop when you're not enjoying it. Same if you do a workout, you don't need to start by doing a massive HIIT workout or set amount of weights. Just little and often and flood your body with positive endorphins. Keep your head up mate, there's plenty of people in your life who you will mean so much to; and you bring some good energy and humour to this forum from what I've seen.

A lot of the work I did is mentioned in this website. It’s very much about undoing your thought process and almost re educating your brain.

There is a lot to take in and trying to do it all on your own is hard as you often can’t see the wood for the trees. My therapist helped me to understand the content and whilst not all of it helped, parts of it did.

You can self refer. My doctor said that tablets will help but this would be better but it was self referral so she gave me a card and I had to ring and arrange the apt. 30 min session a week for around 8 weeks. I think anyone feeling the need for help could ring their doctors and ask if this is possible and find out more. It is an NHS service.

Alongside this, walking, cutting out/down booze and being more open with my employer and family helped.
 

A lot of the work I did is mentioned in this website. It’s very much about undoing your thought process and almost re educating your brain.

There is a lot to take in and trying to do it all on your own is hard as you often can’t see the wood for the trees. My therapist helped me to understand the content and whilst not all of it helped, parts of it did.

You can self refer. My doctor said that tablets will help but this would be better but it was self referral so she gave me a card and I had to ring and arrange the apt. 30 min session a week for around 8 weeks. I think anyone feeling the need for help could ring their doctors and ask if this is possible and find out more. It is an NHS service.

Alongside this, walking, cutting out/down booze and being more open with my employer and family helped.

Some fantastic info in there, thanks for sharing mate. Just opening up and being honest about these things is the biggest step, there's no shame in it, it's killing far too many young men. The advice you've given above will no doubt help other posters, who may not have the same tools yet to deal with how they're feeling.
 
I struggle a lot with apathy/depression from having executive function disorders - autism and ADD.

It’s seemingly impossible to initiate tasks, stay focused, remember things and maintain relationships. Antidepressants fail to work because it’s a dopamine and norepinephrine dysfunction.

It can be overwhelming I'm sure. I've got 2 close family members with each of the separate conditions above, so can relate slightly. With high functioning Autism, I've found that routine is very important, so getting to know the things you like and carry them out within your control, at a set time of day if that helps. Being open to those close with you, stating that you like things being done a certain way or it stresses you out. Some family members don't read these cues as well as others, so there's no harm in letting them know, they're not going to think of you any differently.

My experience of ADD is that the person often carries out tasks in a different manner to how others would, often to the same end result, which is completely fine. Also concentrating on one task at a time can be hard, so setting timers for certain tasks can help, and finding a dedicated time in the day to do something for you that you enjoy and can switch off from other distractions.

I'm in no way a Dr or a Therapist, that is just how we've helped to combat it within my close circle, so hope it helps. The key is being open with these things, there's not the stigma they're used to be; we are a very complex breed as humans. Keep smiling mate.
 

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