Derek Hatton re-admitted to Labour, suspended after two days

Prestwich_Blue said:
Right wing parties are, by their very nature, generally xenophobic & racist so they attract people of similar views. That’s their raison d’etre more often than not so we shouldn’t be surprised by that.

Left wing parties generally pride themselves on their tolerance and diversity. They should be the last place you’d find a racist. Yet the Labour Party under Corbyn, a man of intemperate views where Israel is concerned, has allowed an culture to develop where antisemitism is seen as acceptable or even desirable. And the leader of that party has been less than strenuous in putting the lid on it.
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Until people realise the left is every bit as bad as the right we have no chance.

This forum is the perfect example with posters calling others racists and Nazis yet all of a sudden they refuse to accept abuse from their own side and pretend it doesn’t happen.

History tells us what the left is just as capable of!
 
blueinsa said:
Until people realise the left is every bit as bad as the right we have no chance.

This forum is the perfect example with posters calling others racists and Nazis yet all of a sudden they refuse to accept abuse from their own side and pretend it doesn’t happen.

History tells us what the left is just as capable of!
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The Labour party at present is far left and they try to make out that the Tory party is far right when they are not, contrary nonsense is spouted by the Labour party to try and deflect some of their quite frankly obscene views.
 
happyman said:
The Labour party at present is far left and they try to make out that the Tory party is far right when they are not, contrary nonsense is spouted by the Labour party to try and deflect some of their quite frankly obscene views.
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I don’t believe the PLP is far left and neither is it’s core electoral support.

It’s been hijacked by Momentum who frankly should fuck off and for their own party if they believe in the shit they spout.
 
blueinsa said:
Until people realise the left is every bit as bad as the right we have no chance.

This forum is the perfect example with posters calling others racists and Nazis yet all of a sudden they refuse to accept abuse from their own side and pretend it doesn’t happen.

History tells us what the left is just as capable of!
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Capable of things like

  • The NHS
  • Sure Start
  • Free Education
  • Libraries
  • winter fuel payments
  • Increased Child benefit
  • State Pension
  • Employment rights
  • Council Housing
  • Ending of the Death Penalty
  • Decriminalisation of Homosexuality
  • Open University
  • Equal Pay Act
  • Racial Discrimination legislation
  • National Minimum Wage
  • Good friday Agreement
  • Devolution for Scotland / Wales and Northern Ireland
  • Human Rights Act
  • Freedom of Information Act
  • Civil Partnerships
  • Cancelling up to 100% of third world debt. (Whilst still retaining a UK debt level below 40% of that currently being incurred by the conservatives)

Just to mention a few..

Everything you either benefit from or will benefit from has been introduced by the Labour Party... however the Party on the 'other side' spend their time trying to remove them. (They even took Free Milk and Free Meals away from your children )
 
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gordondaviesmoustache said:
I thought he’d get at least a working majority at the ‘92 general election, even after that speech. Was pretty shocked that Major won that election (even although it arguably turned out to be a poisoned chalice). That was the first election I was entitled to vote in, even though I was 22. Just missed out in ‘87.

I voted Labour in ‘92 (would have voted Libdem if I was eligible in ‘87). On both occasions my voting intention was principally defined by the party most likely to beat the Tories within the constituency I was residing.
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Labour led in every single poll right up until election day in '92 but failed to convince the electorate on the economy. It had tanked but voters were convinced that no matter how bad it had been and would be under Major, it would be worse under Kinnock. Don't forget the influence of the press then - the infamous lightbulb picture. The Tories, under Major then went on to garner more votes than any other party before or since at the ballot box. No Kinnock, no Smith, no Smith, no Blair; ergo, Kinnock paved the way for future Labour electoral success. Alistair Campbell in his brilliant diaries talks a lot about how Kinnock influenced Blair and Brown and was often someone Campbell would seek advice from. And still does.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Capable of things like

  • The NHS
  • Free Education
  • Libraries
  • winter fuel payments
  • Increased Child benefit
  • State Pension
  • Employment rights
  • Council Housing
  • Ending of the Death Penalty
  • Decriminalisation of Homosexuality
  • Open University
  • Equal Pay Act
  • Racial Discrimination legislation
  • National Minimum Wage
  • Good friday Agreement
  • Devolution for Scotland / Wales and Northern Ireland
  • Human Rights Act
  • Freedom of Information Act
  • Civil Partnerships
  • Cancelling up to 100% of third world debt. (Whilst still retaining a UK debt level below 40% of that currently being incurred by the conservatives)

Just to mention a few..

Everything you either benefit from or will benefit from has been introduced by the Labour Party... however the Party on the 'other side' spend their time trying to remove them. (They even took Free Milk and Free Meals away from your children )
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Given all that it shouldn’t be too much to ask of the party I have voted for and supported all my adult life (48 now) to rid itself of the racist, vile anti Semitic abusers and be a party for everyone, not just those deemed ideologically pure?
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Capable of things like

  • The NHS
  • Free Education
  • Libraries
  • winter fuel payments
  • Increased Child benefit
  • State Pension
  • Employment rights
  • Council Housing
  • Ending of the Death Penalty
  • Decriminalisation of Homosexuality
  • Open University
  • Equal Pay Act
  • Racial Discrimination legislation
  • National Minimum Wage
  • Good friday Agreement
  • Devolution for Scotland / Wales and Northern Ireland
  • Human Rights Act
  • Freedom of Information Act
  • Civil Partnerships
  • Cancelling up to 100% of third world debt. (Whilst still retaining a UK debt level below 40% of that currently being incurred by the conservatives)

Just to mention a few..

Everything you either benefit from or will benefit from has been introduced by the Labour Party... however the Party on the 'other side' spend their time trying to remove them. (They even took Free Milk and Free Meals away from your children )
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Spot on. And yes while Corbyn's policies are to the left of Blair. He's not Lenin.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Capable of things like

  • The NHS
  • Free Education
  • Libraries
  • winter fuel payments
  • Increased Child benefit
  • State Pension
  • Employment rights
  • Council Housing
  • Ending of the Death Penalty
  • Decriminalisation of Homosexuality
  • Open University
  • Equal Pay Act
  • Racial Discrimination legislation
  • National Minimum Wage
  • Good friday Agreement
  • Devolution for Scotland / Wales and Northern Ireland
  • Human Rights Act
  • Freedom of Information Act
  • Civil Partnerships
  • Cancelling up to 100% of third world debt. (Whilst still retaining a UK debt level below 40% of that currently being incurred by the conservatives)

Just to mention a few..

Everything you either benefit from or will benefit from has been introduced by the Labour Party... however the Party on the 'other side' spend their time trying to remove them. (They even took Free Milk and Free Meals away from your children )
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Just a small point of order.... it was a Labour government that first took free milk from schoolchildren.

The items on your list are decent achievements, but this is a very different Labour party to the ones that were in power when these things were achieved
 
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