Did it bother anyone that we started with NO...

The sections of our illustrious media that make a big deal out of it conveniently forget to mention that only 3 days earlier at an away game to Newcastle we fielded 4 English starters, which had Hart been included would have made it 5.
The year we won the league we regularly had 5-6 English starters and if the right quality was available to us I'm sure there would be a couple more brought in again.
This is where the problems begin though, who would get in ahead of any of our best midfield and forward line? I like Wilshire yet he wouldn't start regular and he's arguably England's future. Rooney, as much as a **** he is can play, again though he wouldn't start regular as he's not better than who we have. That only leaves the back four. We already have the goalkeeper and if Hodgson wasn't so entrenched in his love of the rags we'd likely have the right back as well. The centre halves aren't good enough for us, which considering how bad we've been at the back at times this year says a lot. I'd maybe take jakielka as cover but no one else. That leaves the left back position, the only position where I think there could be an argument as I'd take baines and cole ahead of both of our options.
The thought of playing English players for the sake of it or for the benefit of the national team is ludicrous. We can let the wankers across the City take all those plaudits as they languish outside the top four, looking the ordinary team that they are with "our future" England generation.
 
Phil Meup said:
Colins Bellend said:
Could do with a couple of Poles in the team. That would really start the jingoistic whinging.
Answer to the question NO!!!
Don't think this issue is jingoistic at all.
I couldn't believe it when my mate mentioned it at the game. Obviously, normally we have Joe but this was our first all-foreign premier league start.
We used to have lads actually from Manchester not that long ago. It doesn't bother me but it's a shame. I used to fell more of an affinity with local lads such as SWP. As others have said though, it's a national problem & the FA is a clueless old-boys network IMO.
SWP not a local though. The kids coming through the ranks now will benefit from the class players in their respective teams even just watching them at close quarters. I have been involved in junior football for over 25 years and the standard now is 10 fold what it was. These kids are trying things now that they watch on TV or live at Pro games because trust me the coaches aren't much better today than 25 years ago at junior levels
 
It bothers me that the cost of an English player is always way too high. People mentioned Milner's fee , Barry was £12M and Lescott was £22M. Look at the rags paying £15M for Zaha and he can hardly get into their average squad. I would like to see us sign "promising" English talent or bring up our own.

The National team still likes to favor the old guard of United/Chelsea/Liverpool/Arsenal but outside of the older stars like Rooney, Ashley Cole, Lampard, every other English talent reflects what our current team of English talent looks like and that is squad rotational status.

I do like to keep an eye on Luke Shaw and Tom Ince, but Ince is starting to get looks from Inter.

I think what needs to happen is what I keep wanting MLS/Team USA players to do, PLAY ABROAD! Being comfortable breeds mediocrity.
 
Phil Meup said:
Colins Bellend said:
Could do with a couple of Poles in the team. That would really start the jingoistic whinging.
Answer to the question NO!!!
Don't think this issue is jingoistic at all.
I couldn't believe it when my mate mentioned it at the game. Obviously, normally we have Joe but this was our first all-foreign premier league start.
We used to have lads actually from Manchester not that long ago. It doesn't bother me but it's a shame. I used to fell more of an affinity with local lads such as SWP. As others have said though, it's a national problem & the FA is a clueless old-boys network IMO.

Nope, that happened long before the takeover.

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I think it is concerning for england more than for city.

We have english players that rotate in and out, with Hart the usual starter. On another day richards, milner or lescott could be playing.

The fact is that the level of english talent across the nation is not good enough to be sure-starters in the top clubs. What englishmen in the top clubs are guarenteed a start for a big match bar a minority?

Im sure we'd be going all out for the english aguero, silva or kompany if they existed but they dont....
 
tonea2003 said:
no, never has and never will

if english players are good enough they will get in the team

as someone has said previous it is not man city's problem


Spot on. There are very few world class English players.

Bringing in foreign players is a 2 way street but can anyone think of a single English player in one of the top German, Spanish, Italian or French teams?
 
Phil Meup said:
Colins Bellend said:
Could do with a couple of Poles in the team. That would really start the jingoistic whinging.
Answer to the question NO!!!
Don't think this issue is jingoistic at all.
I couldn't believe it when my mate mentioned it at the game. Obviously, normally we have Joe but this was our first all-foreign premier league start.
We used to have lads actually from Manchester not that long ago. It doesn't bother me but it's a shame. I used to fell more of an affinity with local lads such as SWP. As others have said though, it's a national problem & the FA is a clueless old-boys network IMO.
Shame you didn't see us beat the scum at Maine road with no English players
 
The answer from me would be no it didn't bother me, but if in 5 years time the question was still being asked then I would be disappointed that all the investment going into our academy and youth system at the moment,hadn't produced some English talent.
 
Most of our English players got dropped from the England team before they were regularly left out of the City team. They didn't lose their England places because they weren't in our first team.

Back to the original question, I support Manchester City, therefore I want the players to play who will give my club the best chance of winning that game unless they are left out for tactical/ injury/ recovery reasons by the manager. I don't give too hoots what nationality they are as long as their playing for City fits in with the Club's plan and aims in the short, medium or long term.
 
if i thought lescott,milner,richards,rodwell etc would get a game under woy hodgson i would be bothered , The england boss appears to prefer the rag contingent clevc*nt,smallpiece , stan laurel , ray wilkins mk2 , rug head , ballbeck , are all at best average premiership players , and they wouldnt even get in a spain,brazil or argentina squad . This shows how our countires standards have fallen , no doubt england will suffer another heroic quarter final exit at the next world cup , But i will be hoping to watch aguero,,tevez,nasri,silva,dzeko,balotelli,negredo etc play for their respective countries . simply because they are great players to watch , the same applies to city , the nationality of a player doesnt concern me anymore , its the quality of the player that matters if we want to win some trophies.
 
Bluebee2 said:
Phil Meup said:
Colins Bellend said:
Could do with a couple of Poles in the team. That would really start the jingoistic whinging.
Answer to the question NO!!!
Don't think this issue is jingoistic at all.
I couldn't believe it when my mate mentioned it at the game. Obviously, normally we have Joe but this was our first all-foreign premier league start.
We used to have lads actually from Manchester not that long ago. It doesn't bother me but it's a shame. I used to fell more of an affinity with local lads such as SWP. As others have said though, it's a national problem & the FA is a clueless old-boys network IMO.
Shame you didn't see us beat the scum at Maine road with no English players
Ooops! I'm a knob. Didn't realise this was an all non-English affair. But I did see it - great day!
 
Until I read yesterday that we had no English started I had no idea'
And I don't care either.<br /><br />-- Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:46 pm --<br /><br />Until I read yesterday that we had no English started I had no idea'
And I don't care either.
 
Nope, it doesn't really bother me. Only about 30% of the premier league players are of English origin. It only takes a few English lads to have injury, suspension or poor form problems and you'd be struggling to play a home-grown player. Admittedly this is a big headache for the FA and the England manager, however this situation has been on the cards for quite a few years now - and not a lot seems to be changing imo.
 
The manager should pick the best side for the game. If that doesn't include any Englishmen then yes it does concern me, because City feel a little bit less my team because of their absence, but it doesn't make the team selection wrong.

There's a little niggle at the back of my mind that makes me wonder if all things being equal Pellegrini will always opt for the Spanish speaker when picking the side though.
 
Since when was any football club obliged to field an all English team? Football has moved on from when Jimmy Hill was on Match of The Day. Dig out your football sticker books between 1970 and 1999 and have a check. There were Welsh, Scots and all sorts of Irish players turning out for City.

Oh yes, and apart from 1976, we won fuck all.
 

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