Did we really get it wrong?

[Summerbuzz]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ght-city-needed-to-win-52-not-42-8996549.html

 

[oakiecokie]

This is what I can`t get my around !! If we had scored another goal (according to this final league table) how the hell would we have gone through as group winners,as they would be 1 goal worse off and us ONLY one goal better off :

Played Goal Difference Points
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1 Bayern Munich 6 12 15
2 Man City 6 8 15
3 Viktoria Plzen 6 -11 3
4 CSKA Moscow 6 -9 3

Some fucker clear this up for me please !!!!!!

 

[johnmc]

don't need to hear the interview just watch the game its quite clear city were going to risk nothing going for a 4th
so going for a 4th meant nothing
only it didn't ,it meant topping the group

Going for a fourt may have meant only a draw.

 

[Ray78]

Personally no. Bayern are the strongest team in the group and the fact that we beaten them especially after the home defeat and with a weakened team is a tremendous result. However the OP has every right to have a discussion on whether we dropped a slight bollock with not topping the group.

 

[SalfordCityBlue]

Milner's quotes should clear up any uncertainty:

"We didn’t know if 4-2 would be enough or if we would need 5-2. We thought it needed to be 5-2 to be honest.’

Great win, but that is pretty ridiculous. No idea how something like that can happen.

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

Read his post again, carefully this time, and tell me what he said that is wrong? I agree with him. It's a fantastic result, especially given the shite start to the game. All praise to MP and the team. However; if they weren't aware of what was needed to win the group when we were 3-2 up, it is poor. Simple question; could you see Barca, or real, or Bayern not being fully up to speed on what would be needed if they were in a similar position? Honestly?

The OP's first post said "heads should roll"

So, I say to you. Even if the said mistake was made, is that right? "Honestly?"

I was referring to his last post, hence the reason I quoted that one. And no; seeing as you asked, I don't think it's right that heads should roll. Is that clear enough for you?

His last post is materially different from his starting point.....some might say the guy realised he was talking out of his arse suggesting that the coaching team responsible for one of the best results of our (recent) history should lose their jobs for what may or may not have been a mistake.

Glad we cleared that up!

 

[steviemc]

If we went for it and ended up drawing then we would not be on a high going into the arsenal game. As it is we finished second as we were certain we would at the start of the night but are boosted by a win at an almost invincible team.

Exactly this. I'm over the moon with the performance, and the team get a confidence boost for Saturday. That game will have been watched by many countries, and to win against BM on their home turf will have done so much for the clubs standing in European football. It simply wasn't worth risking a draw.

 

[Barker]

This is what I can`t get my around !! If we had scored another goal (according to this final league table) how the hell would we have gone through as group winners,as they would be 1 goal worse off and us ONLY one goal better off :

Played Goal Difference Points
View full table
1 Bayern Munich 6 12 15
2 Man City 6 8 15
3 Viktoria Plzen 6 -11 3
4 CSKA Moscow 6 -9 3

Some fucker clear this up for me please !!!!!!

It's head to head results, not goal difference.

...I think.

 

[Summerbuzz]

This is what I can`t get my around !! If we had scored another goal (according to this final league table) how the hell would we have gone through as group winners,as they would be 1 goal worse off and us ONLY one goal better off :

Played Goal Difference Points
View full table
1 Bayern Munich 6 12 15
2 Man City 6 8 15
3 Viktoria Plzen 6 -11 3
4 CSKA Moscow 6 -9 3

Some fucker clear this up for me please !!!!!!

if two teams finish on the same point, it is decided by head to head (overall result of the two matches between the two tied teams) then if that's tied, most away goals in the games between the two teams, and only then, if that is still a tie, goal difference in all matches.

 

[Blue2112]

I'm totally confused. Surely we didn't make such a monumental cock up that we didn't know what we needed to top the group. We have a hundred coaches and countless analysts, if they really didn't know heads should roll because that is truly amateurish and embarrassing.
Whether we would have got another is immaterial, it is a joke that a top class outfit could be so clueless.

Not seen the interview. Did Pellegrini think our 18 goals to Bayern's 17 was the deciding factor and not head-to-head aggregate? Or is he simply being misunderstood?

ITV not shown the interview, but elsewhere I've read that Milner knew a 4th would do it.

If we'd have put another forward on we might have conceded.

Marvin apologies for that information earlier. I think I was caught up in the hysteria of winning and having watched Milner's interview a second time he doesn't actually acknowledge a 4th goal would have won the group. He just says something along the lines of yeah it would have been nice to win the group but.....So I'm not sure whether or not he or the players were aware of just how close they came.