"Disappointing" attendances

Not necessarily.

If you dropped the price of each ticket by £5, you would need to sell out the rest of the ground at £13 a head to cover that price drop. Given that most of the adult tickets were priced between £10 and £15, I don't see the financial incentive for the club to have dropped prices like that: they would probably have ended up with less gate receipts and devalued the product.
I both agree (with what you say) and disagree mate. Over one game the club lose revenue by reducing prices. However, if the club attract new fans they will have more fans wanting tickets long term. Plus the missing fans yesterday would want drinks and refreshments, and the club store would have done more business. Speculate to accumulate, n' all that.
 
Just back from our reps meeting and we're all agreed that he was well out of order here. In fact we're going to ask the club if he'll come along to a meeting and explain what he thinks we need to do to fill the stadium. As it happens, we've got a club deputation, including Danny Wilson, coming along to our branch meeting this week so that'll be interesting.
What about the 20,000 that leave early every home game.Do you think he would notice that.
 
I think the excuses are poor, blaming the club for 'this or that'("I don't like that Ferris twat, so I couldn't go"), like it stops people going when it shouldn't. Lets call it as it is, not enough people thought it was a big enough game to either get up early on a Sunday(especially those who travel) or didn't think it was worth what it would cost them.

If the club lowers the price too far then people will still take the piss "You have to give the tickets away" etc Maybe the club could have done more to convince people to turn out but who knows how much difference that would have made? Atleast it's not often the attendance is that bad.

The match schedulers aren't helping at all though, maybe City should start complaining/asking why their games are put on at shit times for everyone. Does anyone know how that compares with the rest of the top 6?
 
Madrid away has sold out.

So both Madrid games have sold out.

On top of 2 League Cup games against United, and the FA Cup game against Fulham.

And don’t forget, the FA Cup draw is tonight, so fans will have to fork out again for an FA Cup game home or away. And a possible replay.
Away FA Cup draw wasn't so bad IMO

If we win on Wednesday then the Arsenal game 01/03 will be moved allowing for another Wembley final.

Before then it a small trip to Madrid & following the League Cup final will be a Wednesday trip to Sheffield before the Derby on the Sunday.

A home draw would have probably been the same outcome especially if we reach Wembley??
 
Just back from our reps meeting and we're all agreed that he was well out of order here. In fact we're going to ask the club if he'll come along to a meeting and explain what he thinks we need to do to fill the stadium. As it happens, we've got a club deputation, including Danny Wilson, coming along to our branch meeting this week so that'll be interesting.

Your comment about what we need to do to fill the stadium is confusing to me. We are selling out league games which can't be bad and getting 50,000 + crowds in CL group games against relatively poor opposition. Your comment makes it sound like our crowds are consistently poor which is very misleading. Maybe your intention is different but that is the feeling I got when reading your post.
 
Just back from our reps meeting and we're all agreed that he was well out of order here. In fact we're going to ask the club if he'll come along to a meeting and explain what he thinks we need to do to fill the stadium. As it happens, we've got a club deputation, including Danny Wilson, coming along to our branch meeting this week so that'll be interesting.
He said he didn’t know why, so doubt he knows what to do about it.
 
Yes but many of those people relocated a fair few into the ss 3 rd tier snapping up the cheap s/c before they went on open sale, and those bits that got moved were hardly singing sections, so dont think those relocations had a big degradation to the atmosphere. Lots of other reasons for that, and things can be done to help that don’t and won’t involve changing the corporate option.

I used to sit in level SSL2. Those areas were full of passionate, noisy, boisterous and singing City fans who relocated from the North stand and Maine Road. It was the same in ESL2, when I used to sit there on a few occasions.

I stand corrected on this point, and if I’m wrong I apologise. Many City fans who had sat in those ESL2 seats since the move from Maine Road were priced out and asked to move to other parts of the stadium to make way for more expensive corporate padded seats and corporate customers before SSL3 was expanded. There was a big fall out between the fans and the club about it.

Anyway.

From the MEN.

Why Pep Guardiola criticism of Man City fans was hopelessly wrong
Manchester City manager was clearly disappointed at the Etihad Stadium attendance - and level of support - against Fulham

The message for Guardiola is clear – stick with producing beautiful football and leave the supporting to the supporters.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...ws/man-city-fans-guardiola-criticism-17638836
 
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There's no doubt the crowd can affect players in a variety of ways, good and bad.

It's possible that he may think why am I bothering? After all, the reason he tries to get his team to play attractive football is to entertain people and whilst TV rules in many ways, there's no substitute in terms of appreciation for people coming to the ground.

I realise Pep gets handsomely paid for his efforts but I doubt the money is a motivator.

I feel that Pep is underappreciated by our supporter base and it does concern me that might lead to him leaving sooner than he might otherwise have done.

Mind you, as long as the next guy wears a scarf and has nice hair, he'll be fine.[/QUOTE]
Now now........
 
He said he didn’t know why, so doubt he knows what to do about it.
Well he should keep his mouth shut then as people who comment about things they have no answers for often look pretty stupid. But by talking to us, he could maybe understand some of the factors that cause people not to

One of the other things we talked about was transport and how that affects attendnaces and early leavers. One of the suggestions put forward was that senior members of the club's management should experience for themselves what it's like to try to get a tram after a game. Then they might have some appreciation of what fans actually have to put up with.
 
Your comment about what we need to do to fill the stadium is confusing to me. We are selling out league games which can't be bad and getting 50,000 + crowds in CL group games against relatively poor opposition. Your comment makes it sound like our crowds are consistently poor which is very misleading. Maybe your intention is different but that is the feeling I got when reading your post.
Well there's an issue there as well. As has been said before, many people with tickets simply don't turn up, some for a significant number of games. We're not unique in that respect by the way. It's not just a City problem. Hence why we're trying to find ways of filling seats and threatening to refuse to renew the season tickets of serial no-shows who don't have a good reason. It's not just a question of selling tickets.
 
Well he should keep his mouth shut then as people who comment about things they have no answers for often look pretty stupid. But by talking to us, he could maybe understand some of the factors that cause people not to

One of the other things we talked about was transport and how that affects attendances and early leavers. One of the suggestions put forward was that senior members of the club's management should experience for themselves what it's like to try to get a tram after a game. Then they might have some appreciation of what fans actually have to put up with.
Never mind the tram, who thought up the latest stewarding control at the entrance to Blue car parks? God knows what the stewards were doing but there was a big tailback down ATW/Hulme Hall Lane, it seemed that only 3 or 4 cars/coaches were being allowed in between each change of lights and it was nothing to do with the timing of the lights. That was with a reduced attendance too, it'll be chaos with a full house.
 
Well he should keep his mouth shut then as people who comment about things they have no answers for often look pretty stupid. But by talking to us, he could maybe understand some of the factors that cause people not to

One of the other things we talked about was transport and how that affects attendnaces and early leavers. One of the suggestions put forward was that senior members of the club's management should experience for themselves what it's like to try to get a tram after a game. Then they might have some appreciation of what fans actually have to put up with.

Go even further have them ring up to buy tickets then get public transport.
 
Well there's an issue there as well. As has been said before, many people with tickets simply don't turn up, some for a significant number of games. We're not unique in that respect by the way. It's not just a City problem. Hence why we're trying to find ways of filling seats and threatening to refuse to renew the season tickets of serial no-shows who don't have a good reason. It's not just a question of selling tickets.

I don’t think it’s no shows or early leavers that bothers Pep. It’s flat, unsupportive atmospheres which don’t lift the team.
 
I both agree (with what you say) and disagree mate. Over one game the club lose revenue by reducing prices. However, if the club attract new fans they will have more fans wanting tickets long term. Plus the missing fans yesterday would want drinks and refreshments, and the club store would have done more business. Speculate to accumulate, n' all that.

The tickets were already cheap and people didn't come.

Cheaper tickets wouldn't suddenly produce a load of new supporters.

Building the fan base is a long-term job and what will do it is playing attractive football and winning trophies not virtually giving tickets away for FA Cup ties.
 
39,000 is quite a good crowd in my book. It's the equivalent of filling Sheffield Wednesday's ground to the rafters.
 
Well there's an issue there as well. As has been said before, many people with tickets simply don't turn up, some for a significant number of games. We're not unique in that respect by the way. It's not just a City problem. Hence why we're trying to find ways of filling seats and threatening to refuse to renew the season tickets of serial no-shows who don't have a good reason. It's not just a question of selling tickets.

Fair comment and fully agree about the season ticket holders not turning up situation. I hope you can make some progress in that area.
 
I don't get Pep's comments. I went to a couple of Barca games in the 2010-11 season and against lesser lights the ground was only ¾ full. In Copa Del Rey games it can be even worse.
 
Never mind the tram, who thought up the latest stewarding control at the entrance to Blue car parks? God knows what the stewards were doing but there was a big tailback down ATW/Hulme Hall Lane, it seemed that only 3 or 4 cars/coaches were being allowed in between each change of lights and it was nothing to do with the timing of the lights. That was with a reduced attendance too, it'll be chaos with a full house.

This definitely needs bringing up @Prestwich_Blue it was the same for the Port Vale match. I'm not sure if they are doing something different at Cup games but it is an absolute shambles. There were nearly fisticuffs on Sunday and i heard one guy saying he'll never come again unless they sort it out. The stewards were getting an inordinate amount of grief.
BTW - i have the answer - They were funneling most of the cars into the first car park on the left and stopping them at the gate which meant nobody could get past as they paid or showed passes etc. If they had a line of cones up to the middle of the car park and check tickets there they could clear it much quicker.
 

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