Discuss Pellegrini (Pt 2)

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samharris said:
Wow..we are criticising the team selection...how many of you can honestly say that you didnt agree with the team selection yesterday??

It was 1 forced change from the team that raped the scum ffs..
There was actually 2 changes.

No issue with the selection, the subs were shite again though.
 
Paulmcfc2703 said:
samharris said:
Wow..we are criticising the team selection...how many of you can honestly say that you didnt agree with the team selection yesterday??

It was 1 forced change from the team that raped the scum ffs..
There was actually 2 changes.

No issue with the selection, the subs were shite again though.

Nasri had to be brought off before he got himself sent off. Maybe Garcia could have come on for him, to add another body in midfield, but at the time I didn't think Navas for Nasri was a bad swap.
 
It's early days and I am no expert but from what I have seen so far City under Pellegrini will resemble Kevin Keegans Newcastle / City (and yes I know Pellegrini is supposed to be tactically astute unlike Keegan), ie we will play great football, be up for the big games especially at home, we will have decent cup runs but will be too inconsistent to win the league.

Hopefully I am wrong but the manager's record isn't that of a serial title winner and I read somewhere that his away record at Malaga was not great.

As I say though I am no expert.
 
sh249 said:
mike channon´s windmill said:
Some advice to MP

Take a look at the performances of Atletico, in particular last nights fantastic job on that white trash.
Look at your fellow South American "chollo" Simeone and see how you can ingrain just some of the togetherness, commitment, purpose, determination and downright will to win into our individuals the way he has inbued the very same qualities into the DNA of Atletico´s players. They play with the passion of the fans, something Simeone understands fully. We would get ripped a new one by Atleti based on yesterdays aberration. It simply can´t go on. Twice we thought the game was won and complacency reared its ugly head. We thought it was game over. We were taught a costly lesson. We could be 15 points adrift before too long at this rate.
I have now returned to the natural default setting of expecting nothing from City as frankly I don´t know WHAT to expect one week to the next. Maybe it´s the sensible attitude to take atm as it takes the pressure off and some of us (yes me!!) might take things a bit more in our stride.
Make no mistake , yesterday was an abomination and anyone who really thinks it was anything less is dodging the issue. The two strikers up top yesterday was a combination hardly anyone on this forum would have sanctioned - it clearly didn´t work so why did he insist on it in the first place? Our pass and move play seems to have been thrown out with the bathwater in favour of a scum type wing play bombardment. This was supposed to compliment and provide a plan B to our normal strategy , not become the blueprint for our style of play. There were gaping gaps between the lines of what appeared to be a 4-2-2-2 formation, spaces fully exploited for 2 of the Villa goals. Why on earth weren´t we defending with 2 banks of four if it was supposed to be a 4-4-2 set up?
Disjointed, lacking purpose and devoid of the ruthlessness required from a squad of such quality which leaves me frankly bemused
I sincerely hope we haven´t picked a dud

Nothing wrong with the tactics whatsoever yesterday. Villa created two chances in open play over 90 minutes - one offside, the other from an aimless long ball, aided by unimaginably bad defensive errors. Other than that they got a cheap free-kick (daft foul, nothing to do with tactics or set-up), and a half chance off a corner. That's it.

Far from being disjointed, our play was very cohesive, certainly for the first 60-70 minutes - far better than we saw in the majority of away games last season.
Defensively we were disjointed for all 3 goals. They picked holes between the lines which were 2 plus two wide in front of the back four leaving them exposed. As I said if you´re going to play 4-4-2 make fookin sure you defend tightly in 2 banks of four - thats it, nothing more.
 
Revolver said:
It's early days and I am no expert but from what I have seen so far City under Pellegrini will resemble Kevin Keegans Newcastle / City (and yes I know Pellegrini is supposed to be tactically astute unlike Keegan), ie we will play great football, be up for the big games especially at home, we will have decent cup runs but will be too inconsistent to win the league.

Hopefully I am wrong but the manager's record isn't that of a serial title winner and I read somewhere that his away record at Malaga was not great.

As I say though I am no expert.

38 points from 38 games at Malaga. Hardly a great away record!!!
 
Marvin said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
A lot of posters were quick to praise including myself after the Plzen,Derby and Wigan games.

Are we entitled to criticise now to balance that because he fucked up yesterday with the substitutions and the starting of Edin anNegredo together.

Just asking for a bit of balance?

That humble pie has given me a little bit of indigestion..........
Aguero's injury problem dictated the striking partnership. That and the Bayern game in midweek.

I think the two as a pair aren't ideal

At this stage of the season though it's good to see that the old City is returning

We've played some very good football in recent weeks.

I'm anticipating a loss at home to Bayern, but for the moment I'm happy that we have steadied the ship
Jovetic should have played behind Negredo then or Silva - what was up with him? Still injured or was he on the bench?
 
City's poor away form is something that Pellegrini inherited, I am certain the poor form preys on the minds of the players (consciously or subconsciously); especially when things go a bit against them. If I am right, that is not something that Pellegrini will sort instantly. It may or may not require him to amend his tactics away from home but what he does need is for his players to believe in his approach. If he changes that approach after a couple of setbacks, how is he going to get the players to believe? A bit of perseverance here may pay big dividends down the line.
 
cookster said:
Revolver said:
It's early days and I am no expert but from what I have seen so far City under Pellegrini will resemble Kevin Keegans Newcastle / City (and yes I know Pellegrini is supposed to be tactically astute unlike Keegan), ie we will play great football, be up for the big games especially at home, we will have decent cup runs but will be too inconsistent to win the league.

Hopefully I am wrong but the manager's record isn't that of a serial title winner and I read somewhere that his away record at Malaga was not great.

As I say though I am no expert.

38 points from 38 games at Malaga. Hardly a great away record!!!


I am not if you are being sarcastic. A point every away match will not win us the league (though it would be an improvement on this season's away from
 
vintiz said:
meheramaresh said:
He needs to stop playing 442 when we are away.
4-5-1 then ?
When we played the rags someone next to me asked if it was barca playing. Another guy replied 'barca in blue'

Things is this I think we are going to stick to one thing PRESS! PRESS!! PRESS!!! AND KEEP PRESSING

This has been bugging me for ages - can anyone name a successful pressing team that plays two forwards? Barca, Dortmund, Ajax all play 4-3-3 / 4-2-3-1
 
FromPollockToSilva said:
Paulmcfc2703 said:
samharris said:
Wow..we are criticising the team selection...how many of you can honestly say that you didnt agree with the team selection yesterday??

It was 1 forced change from the team that raped the scum ffs..
There was actually 2 changes.

No issue with the selection, the subs were shite again though.

Nasri had to be brought off before he got himself sent off. Maybe Garcia could have come on for him, to add another body in midfield, but at the time I didn't think Navas for Nasri was a bad swap.

Nasri did look like he had to come off thinking back now.

Milner should have been subbed at half time as I thought he has a shocker in creating anything decent, Jovetic should of played in the hole instead of playing two out and out center forwards in Dzeko and Negredo because I thought the link up play in the final third was average with too much emphasis being on Nasri to unlock the door, we needed a link up man and Jovetic should have been the man with Sergio out.

Navas should have started instead of Milner looking back.

Our away form is a bit of a joke for a so called top side, infact I think it has been all over the place for nearly two seasons now, if anything it was our away form that nearly cost us the league when we won it.

Pellegrini has inherited something that has been a common occurrence for quite a long time so it will take some doing to get it out of our system and back to winning ways, hopefully it is not too long.
 
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