Discuss Pellegrini (Pt 4)

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Cobwebcat said:
BillyShears said:
Cobwebcat said:
Haha a little over excited? :-)

Not at all. I'm not afraid of Bayern. Certainly if we go to them with a fully fit squad, there's no reason we can't beat them.

There are three teams I think we would have little chance against in World football right now. Real Madrid Barca and Bayern. Bayern destroyed us at our place and there's no reason to think we would be better away from home. We rarely had the ball and only came into it when Bayern stopped trying. That's no shame on our part. They are the best team I've ever seen us play.

We are capable not only of beating sides but battering them. But not those three. Not yet.

We are still all over the shop at the back and teams like that would just help themselves.

They were very very good that night - but they've only played that well a couple of times this season according to Pep. It was a special night for them.

I would LOVE us to play Barcelona. I've been willing it for three seasons now.

I respectfully disagree about us being all over the place at the back. Put our strongest XI out against Bayern, Barca, or Madrid, and we have what it takes to beat them home or away.
 
BillyShears said:
Cobwebcat said:
BillyShears said:
Not at all. I'm not afraid of Bayern. Certainly if we go to them with a fully fit squad, there's no reason we can't beat them.

There are three teams I think we would have little chance against in World football right now. Real Madrid Barca and Bayern. Bayern destroyed us at our place and there's no reason to think we would be better away from home. We rarely had the ball and only came into it when Bayern stopped trying. That's no shame on our part. They are the best team I've ever seen us play.

We are capable not only of beating sides but battering them. But not those three. Not yet.

We are still all over the shop at the back and teams like that would just help themselves.

They were very very good that night - but they've only played that well a couple of times this season according to Pep. It was a special night for them.

I would LOVE us to play Barcelona. I've been willing it for three seasons now.

I respectfully disagree about us being all over the place at the back. Put our strongest XI out against Bayern, Barca, or Madrid, and we have what it takes to beat them home or away.

Haha....steady!
 
Cobwebcat said:
BillyShears said:
Cobwebcat said:
There are three teams I think we would have little chance against in World football right now. Real Madrid Barca and Bayern. Bayern destroyed us at our place and there's no reason to think we would be better away from home. We rarely had the ball and only came into it when Bayern stopped trying. That's no shame on our part. They are the best team I've ever seen us play.

We are capable not only of beating sides but battering them. But not those three. Not yet.

We are still all over the shop at the back and teams like that would just help themselves.

They were very very good that night - but they've only played that well a couple of times this season according to Pep. It was a special night for them.

I would LOVE us to play Barcelona. I've been willing it for three seasons now.

I respectfully disagree about us being all over the place at the back. Put our strongest XI out against Bayern, Barca, or Madrid, and we have what it takes to beat them home or away.

Haha....steady!


Our best XI ought to be able to give any of those three a good game. We didn't play well against Bayern but, as our old pal Didi Hamann pointed out on TV recently, the first two goals resulted from errors and hit the team hard mentally. We were not doing badly at all until the first and were just getting some traction back in the game when Clichy went AWOL on 2nd.

The probability is that we would lose out over two legs in the knock-out stages to any of these teams this season but they won't want to draw us.
 
BillyShears said:
cleavers said:
Whilst it would be great, I can't see us putting out a particularly strong team in Munich, we've too many other more important games domestically in the next 4 weeks, we're through to the knockouts, and think he'll take the view that this objective is achieved, and while finishing top would be better for us in the next round, I don't think he'll worrry too much who we get.

I think there'll be a lot of unhappy people when the team for the Southampton game gets announced. Lets say the squad by then is fully fit, I suspect we'll see Kola, Milner, Dzeko, and Richards all playing and certainly Silva, and one of Aguero/Negredo being rested if not both.

Which would be stupid, so hopefully Pellegrini isn't that daft. We're through to the next stage aready. Don't jeopardise the league in the hope of beating Bayern at home to only, in all likelihood, go one stage further in the competition.

We've done the first bit in the CL and are struggling in the league - Let's get the league firmly back on track. Plenty of time to worry about the knock outs.
 
adrianr said:
BillyShears said:
cleavers said:
Whilst it would be great, I can't see us putting out a particularly strong team in Munich, we've too many other more important games domestically in the next 4 weeks, we're through to the knockouts, and think he'll take the view that this objective is achieved, and while finishing top would be better for us in the next round, I don't think he'll worrry too much who we get.

I think there'll be a lot of unhappy people when the team for the Southampton game gets announced. Lets say the squad by then is fully fit, I suspect we'll see Kola, Milner, Dzeko, and Richards all playing and certainly Silva, and one of Aguero/Negredo being rested if not both.

Which would be stupid, so hopefully Pellegrini isn't that daft. We're through to the next stage aready. Don't jeopardise the league in the hope of beating Bayern at home to only, in all likelihood, go one stage further in the competition.

We've done the first bit in the CL and are struggling in the league - Let's get the league firmly back on track. Plenty of time to worry about the knock outs.

This all day long.
Any idea of even remotely sacrificing our chances against Southampton to win the Bayern away game would be nothing but vanity.
As you state we are thru to the knock outs of the CL - job done so to focus on the league position is the main priority & sensible thing right now.
 
Manuel Pellegrini isn't as daft as he appears or is perceived to be and he will put the League as top priority until the next round of the Champions League imo.
 
If Bayern win in Moscow I don't think we'll put out our strongest team in Munich. But I wouldn't be hugely surprised if CSKA snatch a draw on Wednesday, meaning that a 0-1 in Munich would see us top the group. Not sure how MP will prioritise the Bayern and Arsenal games in those circumstances. I think we'll definitely play close to our strongest team at WBA and Southampton.
 
Ray78 said:
Manuel Pellegrini isn't as daft as he appears or is perceived to be and he will put the League as top priority until the next round of the Champions League imo.

He is not daft at all; some of the comments we see about him are. The idea that he is naive is one of the classics. He will, as the cliche goes, have forgotten more about football management and coaching than most people on this site will ever know. He will also be the intellectual superior of all but a few posters on Bluemoon.
 
OB1 said:
Didsbury Dave said:
BillyShears said:
Its interesting so many people think it was a deliberate ploy to play on the break yesterday - I don't think it was. I think Clichy was told to sit because of Lennon's pace - simple as that. Otherwise the reason we played on the break so much was because of the early goal and Spurs' early dominance in central midfield.
Exactly how I saw it mate.

Very boring of me but I happen to agree with the deadly duo, again.

Then, with respect, may I recommend a trip to the opticians for all three of you in the near future then - because it was very definitely a different defensive formation. The issue is whether it was planed or forced on us because of the way that Spurs mainly attack through the centre of midfield
 
OB1 said:
....He will also be the intellectual superior of all but a few posters on Bluemoon.

You can almost hear the shrine being built. The cabal is now a coven. The disciples of Pellers. I love this place.
 
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