Discuss Pellegrini

[Anonymous]

Billy' you really are unbelievable.

Yes, I'm unbelievable. You however are completely believable.

If you check you'll find that I said that chants of Mancini were "clearly audible" on Sky. At no point did I say that they were by Blues, or Cardiff fans taunting us or by anyone else.

 

[TGR]

This season..We lose at Cardiff and it's the players fault yeah,not Pellers???

seriously hope we go on a fucking fantastic run now starting at home tomorrow but just say-and there is every possibility,that we don't and 10 games in we are maybe 8-10 points adrift??

Will it still be the players fault or will you start to question the appointment of Pellegrini?

Or will you come out with the "transitional season" bollocks-even after 80 million spent on new talent. Something that Mancini wasn't afforded last year.

Or-Will you just change your agenda to suit yourself??

Genuine questions Billy. I just want some honest answers from you.

Hahahahahahahaha. You lot aren't blessed with much subtlety are you. You've answered all your own questions so I hardly feel the need to bother. You should probably grab yourself a hanky and wipe your mouth off. The froth isn't very becoming.

A complete and total cop out from the pompous and self-righteous one.

You have been called out Mr. Shears and you have no reply. Your credibility on here is zero.

 

[Anonymous]

You have been called out Mr. Shears and you have no reply. Your credibility on here is zero.

Your just mad I didn't reply to your love letter quickly enough!

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

I am one of those fans of the club where loyalty probably clouds my judgement. I was loyal to the end to Mancini, he inherited Mark Hughes' side and took us further than we ever could have hoped. He won the FA Cup ending our trophy drought and beating the rags at Wembley, he won us the league in an up and down roller coaster season fitting to the way City do things. I have nothing but good things to say about him and what he did for the club. He has said he doesn't understand why he was sacked, he hasn't slated the club in any way and has been good to us fans.

As a fan I found at times we were slow in build up play and that we lacked that cutting edge or width. But whether Mancini was planning on addressing that this summer by signing Fernandinho and Navas who knows! Tactically whilst he gets slated on here, he managed to overhaul an 8 point deficit and whilst luck played a part, he dealt with the situation very well. In head to head battles with our rivals he normally came out on top. In Europe we did lack that tactical nouse and were often out played. But our luck was missing, we dominated Napoli at home and got pipped on the break and were unlucky not to get through the group. I think last season it played on Mancini's mind. He was sacked from Inter based on european performances and i think he tried to mix things up a bit too much. We didn't improve in the transfer window but that wasn't down to him not wanting to, that was because of us refusing agent fees and rightly so.

The club have wanted to restructure things and avoid embarrassing transfers like that of Sinclair. We have off loaded high wage earners and brought in a more structures wage system and bought good players withough paying over the odds (Fernandinho from Shakhtar was always going to cost a lot, they always sell for high prices). The whole holistic terminology that has since emerged was a way of subtly saying that Mancini wasnt willing to work within the way the club had decided to. I think Mancini wanted certain players regardless of their fees. The club have implemented a way of doing things, the manager gets a say on players but they will not pay anything for them. They also wanted someone with a record of nurturing younger players and bringing them through. I believe Pellegrini has already seen the EDS in action and I don't think Mancini attended many of their games.

The whole club has had a massive overhaul this summer in terms of coaches at the younger age groups and with wages in the first team and I think the Barca boys now have someone who is perfect to slot into their system. I do honestly believe Pellegrini will settle well and his methodical brain will mean we are strong tactically.

As I stated at the beginning though I am a bit of a head in the clouds loyal supporter. I thought Sinclair could have made an impact for us and many will write off what I say now because of that!!!

Another very good post, and I find it hard to dissent from a single word. Last August the club simply did not function and the window was a disaster. Mancini was never a perfect manager, and he made mistakes. But in the last analysis there is no need to defend Mancini to the bitter end, to justify every word he uttered or every decision he made. His performances on the pitch are his reference. But it wasn't good enough for Billy Shears and Didsbury Dave among others. Pellegrini has bought well this August and seems to fit in well at the club. But the only grounds on which he will be judged are results on the pitch, and what BS and DD and others will not do is tell us exactly what they think Pellegrini will do that which will enable to say whether he's a good appointment or not. How will achievements on the pitch justify their grubby anti-Mancini campaign?

 

[Anonymous]

But it wasn't good enough for Billy Shears and Didsbury Dave among others.

The others you've failed to mention being Khaldoon, Sheikh Mansour, Ferran, Txiki, the staff at Carrington, and a large majority of the players. But of course, the fact it wasn't good enough for me and Dave is what sealed Mancini's fate!

You, TGR, and St Helen are the gifts that keep on giving. Are the three of you related?

 

[Didsbury Dave]

But in the last analysis there is no need to defend Mancini to the bitter end, to justify every word he uttered or every decision he made. His performances on the pitch are his reference. But it wasn't good enough for Billy Shears and Didsbury Dave among others.

Those others included The Sheikh, Khaldoon, Soriano and Begeristain.

 

[TGR]

You have been called out Mr. Shears and you have no reply. Your credibility on here is zero.

Your just mad I didn't reply to your love letter quickly enough!

A complete and total cop out from the pompous and self-righteous one.
All you need to do Billy is answer the straightforward questions asked by SHB.

So once again: Put up or shut up Billy?

 

[Anonymous]

You have been called out Mr. Shears and you have no reply. Your credibility on here is zero.

Your just mad I didn't reply to your love letter quickly enough!

A complete and total cop out from the pompous and self-righteous one.
All you need to do Billy is answer the straightforward questions asked by SHB.

So once again: Put up or shut up Billy?

Unless your Ric'a alter ego I'd suggest your in no position to get me to shut up. It is however worth asking yourselves why your quite so obsessed with me. I'm flattered of course, just a bit concerned because I know unrequited love can be painful no matter how old you are.

 

[OB1]

It's rather comical that you say you have "no issue with the club" but then you keep attacking Billy for having the same opinion. I'm enjoying it.

This one posted after the Cardiff game that Blues were singing Mancini songs during the match. When challenged by people who were at the game he said "I heard it clearly on the Sky coverage" or words to that effect. When people who watched the game on Sky challenged that, he shifted gears completely and began pretending he had never made the comment.

Billy' you really are unbelievable. If you check you'll find that I said that chants of Mancini were "clearly audible" on Sky. At no point did I say that they were by Blues, or Cardiff fans taunting us or by anyone else. I was in my lounge watching the match on TV, as I presume you were in Paris. I then went on to say that we didn't want this poisoning the atmosphere in the future. I had one poster posting in to ask - I assume a genuine question - as to whether I was winding people up or not, and I answered that It was clearly audible on Sky. I then had someone saying that I was a rag, a comment as startlingly inaccurate and irrelevant as yours. I suppose that the anti-Pellegrini chants from the cup final didn't reach you in Paris. Or were they rags as well? Did the Mancin chants from the Reading game reach you in Paris? Sacking Mancini was a highly controversial decision and many fans want to know what you, as the prime voice of the Mancini out bunch, expect to see improve under Pellegrini now that he's replaced him.

Sacking Mancini was only a controversial decision to people who didn't see the full picture.

Why should Billy lay out specific expectations for Pellegrini? That is what you are demanding, isn't it? The CEO has already said he wants an average of a trophy a year over the next five seasons but he also made it clear that could mean multiple trophies in some years and none in others.

Pellegrini will be judged from game to game but no one knows at what point we will have a definitive indication on whether he is improving things. The sensible thing would be to get to the end of this season and then review it, taking into account everything that Pellegrini could control and everything that he could not.

 

[Anonymous]

Sacking Mancini was only a controversial decision to people who didn't see the full picture.

Why should Billy lay out specific expectations for Pellegrini? That is what you are demanding, isn't it? The CEO has already said he wants an average of a trophy a year over the next five seasons but he also made it clear that could mean multiple trophies in some years and none in others.

Pellegrini will be judged from game to game but no one knows at what point we will have a definitive indication on whether he is improving things. The sensible thing would be to get to the end of this season and then review it, taking into account everything that Pellegrini could control and everything that he could not.

Don't know how you can take these buffoons seriously. It's like the three stooges of the Chimpanzee enclosure at Chester Zoo have gotten themselves internet access!