Discuss Pellegrini

[MadchesterCity]

WIn the derby next week, and people will be saying Pellegrini is the best thing since sliced bread lol. However, things could get real nasty if we lose, and this pretty much sums up my mindset about City. I feel we are one good performance away of putting it together, but I also feel we are one good hiding away of a collapse.

Got a massive game tuesday first could shape our season madrid away really set us back last season as for pellers he, s getting used to the players and viceversa if were in touching distance by xmas I really do think we will piss the lge!

This bullshit is naive as hell, we have the toughest back half of the season I can remember.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Your post doesn't make any sense old bean you have made a pretty big contradiction

It's called covering all your bases
Nip first said top 4 will be fine
Then started a thread that we WILL win the league aft the Newcastle match
Now top 3 is o.k again

Tbf most of us have done the same

I made that thread before the Newcastle game.

You know full well I said that top 4 and progression in Europe was my requirement. However I believe we can win the league.

I'm not fussed what others think, remember last season when 40k sang Bobbys name. Some good that did. What counts is what the people upstairs think and right now I am sure they aren't propping the ceiling up with acroprops waiting for the sky to fall in. Instead they are probably waiting for next week which is a crucial time for us.

Fair enough it was before the newc match
I guess we will all change our mind on a weekly basis wether we will win the league or not

Tbh we are playing pretty awfull but still up there
Lets hope we are not to many points behind when we do eventually click.

 

[Berkovic_blue]

Even though Mancini got sacked? You might want to rethink that.

By the way, there's a difference between being snide about a manager after four games because you were in love with his predecessor and making a judgement call on a manager who's been in charge for three years.

sorry billy but im calling you on that one..while i agree with some of your criticisms of mancini you were critical of him from pretty early on in his reign as i remember arguements on here where i supported your view of him (ie over defensiveness) - however my view changed and was proved wrong when mancini changed his tactics (became more attaking)

you were critical pretty early on in mancinis reign and from that point didnt change your opinion (fair play thats your decision )

Listen lads billy has put himself in a position where he has to back up his own judgement come what may, this is the problem with being a billy big bollocks, there is no get out, if and it is a big if Mancini doesn't turn out to be lucifers love child then he has to carry on to protect his own ego, a person of better character could hold his hands up

He doesn't have this ability, he has been wrong on so many things but admitting your errors of judgment which we all have is way beyond him

So true.

And people have every right to be concerned about Pellegrini at the moment, doesn't mean people are calling for his head. You usually expect a bit of a lift when a new man comes in but we haven't had that and it is a worry.. Biggest thing for me is I can't actually see what MP is trying to do at the moment in terms of the system, it all looks very disjointed. If it takes half a season so be it, but that's not exactly what was promised.

 

[dctid]

I understood every word ;)

I guess the point is that apart from the Arsenal loss to Villa on the opening day the teams whom are likely to compete for the title / top 4 ie our peers have all lost to their peers ie equivalent teams or lost at grounds which are difficult ie Anfield and Goodison

None of them have dropped points against Cardiff and Stoke - we have had a relatively easy opening 4 games compared to many yet we have still stived to screw up.

Most of these teams will take more than one point from Cardiff and Stoke

If you took the first choice back 4 of any team who go to Stoke, and ask a midfielder to play in central defence, they'd be happy enough to come away with a point.

Agreed but this discusiion is about the manager whom made such a decision - personally i would have gone Rodwell

We were poot all over the field injuries happen

 

[uwe rosler 28]

WIn the derby next week, and people will be saying Pellegrini is the best thing since sliced bread lol. However, things could get real nasty if we lose, and this pretty much sums up my mindset about City. I feel we are one good performance away of putting it together, but I also feel we are one good hiding away of a collapse.

Got a massive game tuesday first could shape our season madrid away really set us back last season as for pellers he, s getting used to the players and viceversa if were in touching distance by xmas I really do think we will piss the lge!

This bullshit is naive as hell, we have the toughest back half of the season I can remember.

Rather play the tough games at the end when the players are settled in if we played them now we could already be lookin like the title was out ov reach!

 

[NipHolmes]

It's called covering all your bases
Nip first said top 4 will be fine
Then started a thread that we WILL win the league aft the Newcastle match
Now top 3 is o.k again

Tbf most of us have done the same

I made that thread before the Newcastle game.

You know full well I said that top 4 and progression in Europe was my requirement. However I believe we can win the league.

I'm not fussed what others think, remember last season when 40k sang Bobbys name. Some good that did. What counts is what the people upstairs think and right now I am sure they aren't propping the ceiling up with acroprops waiting for the sky to fall in. Instead they are probably waiting for next week which is a crucial time for us.

The people upstairs also are firm in their belief that Barry needed to go. How do you feel about that?

Angry but I think his wages were his downfall. Garcia staying over him may be financially more sensible but in reality it's criminal.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

Am concerned. I believe he I trying to do too much all at once. I thought he was a methodical engineer type.
Tune the team, tweek here and there. We have 4 new spark plugs. Shame he seems to have taken off the
wheels and stuck us on bricks.

 

[Bill]

I am seriously pissing myself at the mancini outers, on here, in the dressing room and in the boardroom.

all fucking idiots.

Sheikh Mansour is a fucking idiot?

rammy mate, me, you and half this forum know more about football than our owner. he will have been guided by the gruesome twosome.

 

[Lavinda Past]

I am seriously pissing myself at the mancini outers, on here, in the dressing room and in the boardroom.

all fucking idiots.

Sheikh Mansour is a fucking idiot?

Probably, yes.

 

[uwe rosler 28]

WIn the derby next week, and people will be saying Pellegrini is the best thing since sliced bread lol. However, things could get real nasty if we lose, and this pretty much sums up my mindset about City. I feel we are one good performance away of putting it together, but I also feel we are one good hiding away of a collapse.

Got a massive game tuesday first could shape our season madrid away really set us back last season as for pellers he, s getting used to the players and viceversa if were in touching distance by xmas I really do think we will piss the lge!

This bullshit is naive as hell, we have the toughest back half of the season I can remember.

Rather play the tough games at the end when the players are settled in if we played them now we could already be lookin like the title was out ov reach!

 

[Marvin]

Haha. You beat me to it - was just looking for an appropriate gif!

Going back to your post earlier, it's definitely strange that he hasn't changed things round mid game. However it's just too early to make any real judgements right now. As I keep saying the league's much tougher this season and there will be no easy games. As Chelsea are currently finding out.

Chelsea created loads and loads of chances Billy.
And re the 80 million-we all know that the signings last summer were not his choices.

Everton deserved the win as Chelsea's forward play was rubbish

I'll take a point with a makeshift team at Stoke, but every City fan should be concerned about our sudden inability to control possession and hem teams in like we did last season. Pellegrini has to sort this out and quickly

 

[FantasyIreland]

He needs to forget names and reputations and find the best eleven that gel.

If that involves 'superstars' sitting on the bench,then that is what is required.

 

[NipHolmes]

It's called covering all your bases
Nip first said top 4 will be fine
Then started a thread that we WILL win the league aft the Newcastle match
Now top 3 is o.k again

Tbf most of us have done the same

I made that thread before the Newcastle game.

You know full well I said that top 4 and progression in Europe was my requirement. However I believe we can win the league.

I'm not fussed what others think, remember last season when 40k sang Bobbys name. Some good that did. What counts is what the people upstairs think and right now I am sure they aren't propping the ceiling up with acroprops waiting for the sky to fall in. Instead they are probably waiting for next week which is a crucial time for us.

You do know that you get 3 points if you beat stoke or the rags don't you? can you please tell me how you came to the conclusion that pelligrini is a good manager but you think he picks the wrong players and system, you seem to have missed this point

Yes I know. But us beating the Rags means they dont get anything.

I've missed nothing. Pellegrini favours the 4-2-2-2, check his history. However Yaya imo simply does not fit this formation. Please tell me where Yaya should play provisionally in said formation?

The 4231 would have two box to box runners in Kilner and Fernandinho whilst playing Yaya in his best position. We would lose his deep passes forward but we would dominate more midfields and be very strong. The orblem then is that we have Aguero, Dzeko and Negredo all vying for one place in the team, hence why we play with two attackers imo.<br /><br />-- Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:39 pm --<br /><br />

I am seriously pissing myself at the mancini outers, on here, in the dressing room and in the boardroom.

all fucking idiots.

Sheikh Mansour is a fucking idiot?

rammy mate, me, you and half this forum know more about football than our owner. he will have been guided by the gruesome twosome.

On my life, I am utterly perplexed at what you've just wrote and so flabbergasted I feel that my sanity can only remain with logging off.

The gruesome twosome. Unbelievable.

P.S. Google them and see who many top clubs chased their appointments.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

I thought he was brought in to turn these games that our ex manager couldn't win into 3 pts?

 

[Bill]

the saving grace is its so early in the season, time to put things right. returning players will also help. put it this way we can't possibly get any worse.......can we?

 

[JamesA]

Very early days yet, BUT not overly impressed so far let's put it that way.

 

[RandomJ]

the saving grace is its so early in the season, time to put things right. returning players will also help. put it this way we can't possibly get any worse.......can we?

You had to ask....

 

[hilts]

I made that thread before the Newcastle game.

You know full well I said that top 4 and progression in Europe was my requirement. However I believe we can win the league.

I'm not fussed what others think, remember last season when 40k sang Bobbys name. Some good that did. What counts is what the people upstairs think and right now I am sure they aren't propping the ceiling up with acroprops waiting for the sky to fall in. Instead they are probably waiting for next week which is a crucial time for us.

You do know that you get 3 points if you beat stoke or the rags don't you? can you please tell me how you came to the conclusion that pelligrini is a good manager but you think he picks the wrong players and system, you seem to have missed this point

Yes I know. But us beating the Rags means they dont get anything.

I've missed nothing. Pellegrini favours the 4-2-2-2, check his history. However Yaya imo simply does not fit this formation. Please tell me where Yaya should play provisionally in said formation?

The 4231 would have two box to box runners in Kilner and Fernandinho whilst playing Yaya in his best position. We would lose his deep passes forward but we would dominate more midfields and be very strong. The orblem then is that we have Aguero, Dzeko and Negredo all vying for one place in the team, hence why we play with two attackers imo.

This is the point fella if you can see why we need to play a 3 man midfiled and you think garcia is gash why would you rate pelligrini? it doesnt make sense, surely a good manager picks the best formation dependent on players not his favoured formation, if you can see it why can't he?

this is not having a go at the boss just don't get your logic

 

[taconinja]

the saving grace is its so early in the season, time to put things right. returning players will also help. put it this way we can't possibly get any worse.......can we?

Returning players won't fix our being overrun in midfield. The manager has to fix that. So far he's refused to bend on it.

 

[mike channon´s windmill]

Pellegrini isn't a problem... neither was Mancini. There's an attitude amongst the players that they are bigger than the manager and until that's stamped out, players will continue to put in half arsed performances. Too often has there been passengers in the side.

People on here are way too critical of management level but are incredibly defensive of players. It was the same with Adebayor, he walked all over the club and people continued to kiss his ass. It was only until he left did people finally admit what a twat he was. I'll probably get shot down for this, but I think it's a good example, THEM across the road. Anyone who pissed Ferguson off was instantly in the fireing line... Rooney being the obvious and look at the shit Bebe got. Chelsea are a club that also share the same problem as us, perhaps even worse for them as they seem to have the holy trinity (Terry, Lampard & Cole) calling the shots. Endless amounts of managers come and go but the game never changes, even now for Chelsea, Mourinho has returned but Terry, Lampard and Cole will always come first, despite their inconsistant performances. Load of new tactics, new management, new players brought in but the core of the problem always around like a bad smell. I think longetivity is the solution, if a manager is around for a good solid eight years... he instantly has a presence. Wenger at Arsenal is another, there's no way they'll ever have the balls to sack him... not just because he is the core of the club, but despite Arsenal being pretty damn crap, they still manage to blag their way into the top four no matter how mediocre they look. Liverpool also currently share our problem, probably worse as they don't have the financial muscle to compete with us, Saint Gerrard or some racist twat comes before the manager. Dalglish had to go through all sorts of sh*t to defend Suarez, still cost him his job and Suarez sails on happily.

Barcelona? Another core of players, however, they've benefited from it. Xavi, Messi, Iniesta, Puyol etc. Piss any of them off and you're probably out the door... not such a bad thing as the only way you'll be out the door is if you're not pulling your weight.

Real Madrid? Things not what they once were for them. Zidane, Raul and Casillas once the core. New signings were always monster fees hence putting them under the spotlight, they HAD to perform or once again, they're in the sh*t. Probably similar to ourselves right now.

I think we're building some sort of core, but we have to stick to them. Hart, Kompany & Zabaleta are the big ones. But the club has to keep hold of them aswell as the manager. We've got to have expectations and aim high, but it's down to Pellegrini, Hart, Kompany and Zabaleta to enforce them. If you feel someone isn't pulling their weight, you call them out. Mancini did the same last season with Nasri, even getting to a point where he made it public. It's evident that behind the scenes no player backed him or supported his motion, instead they all turned on him and drove him out the door. Yet Mancini was right, Nasri was being lazy and as soon as Mancini did call him out, he finally got his finger out. As I said, people on here and even the stands are too defensive of the players.

Good post too easily overlooked by the bickering petty point scoring fraternity on here