Discuss Pellegrini....

[blueinsa]

what now? can nobody post their thoughts on here anymore?

Whats wrong with getting behind our manager? Fuck jose, he is a top manager but is a bad egg. Peller's has got us playin unbelieveable football, 19 games unbeaten and currently sit above jose's chelski. Whats not to like and you think about mourinho....

Everyone knows I wanted Mourinho to replace Mancini, but there's no way I would swap. No way. Pellegrini is exactly what we need: a man who can make a squad into a team. He's already done that in spades, and you could see it in the second half yet again.

......greater than the sum of its parts!

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

pelle is a top class manager like bobby was a top class manager,like the players we buy are mostly top class ,as a club we don't do average anymore,lets enjoy the ride

exactly this.

that said can you imagine what jose would do with our squad. 10 points clear at least.

And would David Silva be our 'Mata'! Jose has man-management qualities that are but the slightest improvement in Mancini's. What Pellegrini has achieved in half a season with the 'team' is what Mancini never achieved in the best part of three seasons.

 

[Rammy Blue]

what now? can nobody post their thoughts on here anymore?

Whats wrong with getting behind our manager? Fuck jose, he is a top manager but is a bad egg. Peller's has got us playin unbelieveable football, 19 games unbeaten and currently sit above jose's chelski. Whats not to like and you think about mourinho....

Everyone knows I wanted Mourinho to replace Mancini, but there's no way I would swap. No way. Pellegrini is exactly what we need: a man who can make a squad into a team. He's already done that in spades, and you could see it in the second half yet again.

Jose is without doubt a top manager, one of the best, however there is no way on earth he'd have us playing the way we do at the moment.

The great thing about Manuel, for me, is that it is all about City rather than all about him. He's happy to fly under the radar, straight bat to everything.

 

[Anonymous]

Pellers substitutions yesterday were top notch, although he definitely got the selection wrong in the first place. Micah, Dimi and Lescott in the same defence is just asking for trouble. I looked at the bench yesterday and couldn't think of anything aside from Fernan on for Rodders, Jovetic on for Dzeko and Vinny on for anyone for a bit of leadership. He changed the game completely with his tactical shuffle and Watford barely got out of their half, the gap in class between Zabba and Micah is worryingly evident now by the way. I tip my hat to The Engineer yesterday because he got it wrong but still managed to put it right.

MANUEL PELLIGRINI, PELLIGRINI WOOOOOAH! (I'd quite like this to become a thing as I saw someone had posted it on another thread).

I also wonder how long this thread gets beforw the usual suspects revert to petty point scoring and childish insults.

That really is asking for trouble, playing two England internationals who were half of a title winning defence and an Argentine international that has won the German title together against a Championship side.

Richards doesn't suit what we do tactically now. Maybe with game time he will, but you would think he would pick up on something in training.

Both Lescott and Demichelis are great lieutenants to Kompany's captaincy. Neither of them seem to be the leader for the back line.

I don't really see the problem with what PMS has said especially as you don't rely on past years' performances to determine the present.

Forgive me for speaking for OB1 - I think his point is that irrespective of what the perceived weaknesses were in the team selected - it was still a team which was more than capable of beating Watford comfortably. The fact they didn't and the manager had to make substitutions doesn't automatically mean that the original team selection was wrong. Just that the players didn't perform to anything approaching the standard required.

 

[samharris]

pelle is a top class manager like bobby was a top class manager,like the players we buy are mostly top class ,as a club we don't do average anymore,lets enjoy the ride

exactly this.

that said can you imagine what jose would do with our squad. 10 points clear at least.

And would David Silva be our 'Mata'! Jose has man-management qualities that are but the slightest improvement in Mancini's. What Pellegrini has achieved in half a season with the 'team' is what Mancini never achieved in the best part of three seasons.

I worry that Moyes will bring out the best in Mata...then again..maybe not..

 

[BlueAnorak]

Poor team selection yesterday by Pellers. He changed a position too many for me yesterday.
- Lescott and Demichelis just doesn't work well.
- Yaya and Rodwell together in central midfield - worrying. First it was Rodwell's first game back from long term Injury. Ya yY well - sorry folks but I wouldn't have him as one of the two DMs. Further to the point he looked knackered against Cardiff and looked like he needed two matches off.
- Richards was at least committed (but that's his problem - he over commits). But he has far too much body mass at the moment. He used to have major speed to redeem himself from a mistake - not any more it would seem.
- Everyone else just thought Watford would turn up and roll over and just jogged-on.
- Watford pretty much played 4-3-3 and managed to outnumber our slow and ponderous defence. Having 3 or 4 players hitting us quickly and it exposed us badly.

At half time though he changed it around perfectly stopped the rot at the back and drove us forward. Bringing on Jovetic stretched their defence too much and it snapped. It was then just a matter of time. Very lucky to only be playing Watford though. Against a better side we could have been lucky to get a draw,

So very much a Curate's Egg of a performance from Pellers.

He let the team have it with both barrels at the end of the game in his press conference. Because he said it matter of fact it really doesn't sink in how much of a blast it was. If Mancini had said that the press would have been in melt down.

We need a quality centre half with pace who can play LCH or RCH to seal the deal of a dream season. Only Komapny and Nastatic are really any good and for whatever reason Pellers doesn't seem to like Nastastic. He really should change his mind on that because Demichalis was just about the worst player on the pitch in the first half.

 

[bluemcr]

what now? can nobody post their thoughts on here anymore?

Whats wrong with getting behind our manager? Fuck jose, he is a top manager but is a bad egg. Peller's has got us playin unbelieveable football, 19 games unbeaten and currently sit above jose's chelski. Whats not to like and you think about mourinho....

Everyone knows I wanted Mourinho to replace Mancini, but there's no way I would swap. No way. Pellegrini is exactly what we need: a man who can make a squad into a team. He's already done that in spades, and you could see it in the second half yet again.

I would have had mourinho aswell, knowing what he is capeable of in terms of silverware. Pellegrini came with not much silverware so you can see how fans gave up on him straight away, but you have to look at the bigger picture. Our guys at the top know football and how to win and so does pellegrini. Great man management, you cannot but feel great affection for the guy and that runs right threw the squad. It's true we are in good hands now and mourinho knows this, under hand tactics is all part and parcel of his game but we are doing it the right way and it feels good ;-)

 

[franksinatra]

That really is asking for trouble, playing two England internationals who were half of a title winning defence and an Argentine international that has won the German title together against a Championship side.

Richards doesn't suit what we do tactically now. Maybe with game time he will, but you would think he would pick up on something in training.

Both Lescott and Demichelis are great lieutenants to Kompany's captaincy. Neither of them seem to be the leader for the back line.

I don't really see the problem with what PMS has said especially as you don't rely on past years' performances to determine the present.

Forgive me for speaking for OB1 - I think his point is that irrespective of what the perceived weaknesses were in the team selected - it was still a team which was more than capable of beating Watford comfortably. The fact they didn't and the manager had to make substitutions doesn't automatically mean that the original team selection was wrong. Just that the players didn't perform to anything approaching the standard required.

It is no coincidence that players such as Kolorov, Dzeko have shown improved form this season as a consequence of regular outings and similarly the likes of Lescott, Nastasic, Clichy have not played to their usual standards as they have played less frequently than past seasons.

Undoubtedly the team was strong enough but with a number of players who have not benefitted from regular game time the issue is they will likely be out of form or seem unable to pick up the baton and produce performances to their previous standards.

Worryingly with the number of games approaching this has resulted a replay against Blackburn, and the requirement to bring on the big guns against Watford. Negating the changes as we have had to introduce them to the latter part of the game and an additional match has increased game time for some players who the intention was to reduce the workload

It is a very tricky balancing act and could be crucial over the course of the season. Do we give the fringe players more game time to improve their form allowing us to rest players knowing it may affect performances. Or continue to gamble playing the fringe players in lesser games knowing that it may cost us in one competition.

 

[OB1]

That really is asking for trouble, playing two England internationals who were half of a title winning defence and an Argentine international that has won the German title together against a Championship side.

Richards doesn't suit what we do tactically now. Maybe with game time he will, but you would think he would pick up on something in training.

Both Lescott and Demichelis are great lieutenants to Kompany's captaincy. Neither of them seem to be the leader for the back line.

I don't really see the problem with what PMS has said especially as you don't rely on past years' performances to determine the present.

Forgive me for speaking for OB1 - I think his point is that irrespective of what the perceived weaknesses were in the team selected - it was still a team which was more than capable of beating Watford comfortably. The fact they didn't and the manager had to make substitutions doesn't automatically mean that the original team selection was wrong. Just that the players didn't perform to anything approaching the standard required.

Nothing to forgive ;-)

Let me add that Richards not suiting how we want to play is not a view a that I subscribe to to any great extent. Richards may ultimately come up short and has been overtaken by Zab but before his injuries, he was helping City concede the fewest goals and getting forward and creating chances for his team mates, he started our title winning season with a host of assists. He should be capable of doing a decent job for us against a Championship side.

 

[wayne71]

Forgive me for speaking for OB1 - I think his point is that irrespective of what the perceived weaknesses were in the team selected - it was still a team which was more than capable of beating Watford comfortably. The fact they didn't and the manager had to make substitutions doesn't automatically mean that the original team selection was wrong. Just that the players didn't perform to anything approaching the standard required.

So when we perform poorly these days its no longer the managers fault?