Bit OTT mate. Very disappointing yes, but would you sack him if he finished 3rd?<br /><br />-- Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:32 pm --<br /><br />BobKowalski said:If we finish 3rd then Pellers is a useless twat who needs shooting.
We won it with 89 points. Only one team has failed to win the title with 89 points. We earned that title.bluebobom said:When we won the league two seasons ago, it was also only through the scum slipping up.
Sure, I don't dispute that. I'm saying that we as a club and a fanbase should be expecting we'll be getting out of the group stage at a minimum just as we must expect getting a Top 4 spot. I would rather not end up some day in five or so years doing an Arsenal ie trying to justify finishing in the Top 4 and making it out of the CL group stages as something reminiscent of trophies. Note: I'm not saying we're doing that. I'm saying I see getting to the knockout rounds as the minimum required, which is one of the major reasons I felt the last manager's termination was justified.supercity88 said:taconinja said:Luckily I didn't say that, did I? We're more stable in the locker room, and I find that a great improvement.BillyShears said:Who said it was a victory? I'm baffled as to why people find it quite so hard to admit that getting to the knock out stages for the first time is an improvement on what has come before.
The entire narrative that a small minority continue to put forward that this season somehow isn't a huge improvement on last season is so lacking in credibility that it makes a mockery of the person posting it.
As far as improvement via making it past the group stage, it's marginal. Winning in the first or second knockout round would be an actual improvement as far as I'm concerned. Let's just say if I were the manager, I wouldn't be touting "getting out of the group stage of the CL" as a major hiring point. I doubt Pellegrini would feel that way either. I have seen it brought up by several forum members, though, as if it's an accomplishment. It ranks beside getting into the Top 4 of the league in my mind. At this point, it should be expected.
I think you have to consider how we have previously performed in the CL, and then look at 3 away wins and 2 at home including beating Bayern and progressing as a major improvement to such a dire performance the season before and missing out the year before that. The media circus on our CL performances was ridiculous and unrelenting. We were being slated left right and centre for our poor form in the competition. This year we shook the monkey off our back and made a big stride forward. Barca were fearful and la marca was publicising such in its papers.
supercity88 said:taconinja said:Luckily I didn't say that, did I? We're more stable in the locker room, and I find that a great improvement.BillyShears said:Who said it was a victory? I'm baffled as to why people find it quite so hard to admit that getting to the knock out stages for the first time is an improvement on what has come before.
The entire narrative that a small minority continue to put forward that this season somehow isn't a huge improvement on last season is so lacking in credibility that it makes a mockery of the person posting it.
As far as improvement via making it past the group stage, it's marginal. Winning in the first or second knockout round would be an actual improvement as far as I'm concerned. Let's just say if I were the manager, I wouldn't be touting "getting out of the group stage of the CL" as a major hiring point. I doubt Pellegrini would feel that way either. I have seen it brought up by several forum members, though, as if it's an accomplishment. It ranks beside getting into the Top 4 of the league in my mind. At this point, it should be expected.
I think you have to consider how we have previously performed in the CL, and then look at 3 away wins and 2 at home including beating Bayern and progressing as a major improvement to such a dire performance the season before and missing out the year before that. The media circus on our CL performances was ridiculous and unrelenting. We were being slated left right and centre for our poor form in the competition. This year we shook the monkey off our back and made a big stride forward. Barca were fearful and la marca was publicising such in its papers.
This. A billion times this.Skashion said:We won it with 89 points. Only one team has failed to win the title with 89 points. We earned that title.bluebobom said:When we won the league two seasons ago, it was also only through the scum slipping up.
supercity88 said:taconinja said:Luckily I didn't say that, did I? We're more stable in the locker room, and I find that a great improvement.BillyShears said:Who said it was a victory? I'm baffled as to why people find it quite so hard to admit that getting to the knock out stages for the first time is an improvement on what has come before.
The entire narrative that a small minority continue to put forward that this season somehow isn't a huge improvement on last season is so lacking in credibility that it makes a mockery of the person posting it.
As far as improvement via making it past the group stage, it's marginal. Winning in the first or second knockout round would be an actual improvement as far as I'm concerned. Let's just say if I were the manager, I wouldn't be touting "getting out of the group stage of the CL" as a major hiring point. I doubt Pellegrini would feel that way either. I have seen it brought up by several forum members, though, as if it's an accomplishment. It ranks beside getting into the Top 4 of the league in my mind. At this point, it should be expected.
I think you have to consider how we have previously performed in the CL, and then look at 3 away wins and 2 at home including beating Bayern and progressing as a major improvement to such a dire performance the season before and missing out the year before that. The media circus on our CL performances was ridiculous and unrelenting. We were being slated left right and centre for our poor form in the competition. This year we shook the monkey off our back and made a big stride forward. Barca were fearful and la marca was publicising such in its papers.
BobKowalski said:What is this bleeding obsession with last season?
I would like to see Guardiola play attractive football sans Messi before speaking about the merits of trophies versus style.Dipsis_LTU_MC said:For me, it is better to play attractive, beautiful football and win nothing than play rubbish and park the bus every game like Chelsea impotents. Guardiola said somewhere: football is not only about trophies.
Skashion said:Bit OTT mate. Very disappointing yes, but would you sack him if he finished 3rd?BobKowalski said:If we finish 3rd then Pellers is a useless twat who needs shooting.