Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini 2014/15 (continued)

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Prestwich_Blue said:
leech said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
I mentioned this in another post or thread but it was interesting to read Craig Bellamy's view of working with Benitez. He said he was a real cold fish but the most tactically astute manager he's ever worked with. They would work on specific routines relentlessly in training, rather than just play small or full size games and they would carry out those drills to the letter on the field.

The players didn't have the freedom to make ad-hoc decisions as Bellamy reckoned Rafa didn't trust the players on or off the pitch. He would also be meticulous about finding ways of nullifying the opposition attack.

So his hallmarks were meticulous preparation but with tactical awareness & flexibility, plus great awareness of the opposition. I'm not a huge Benitez fan but isn't that what we want from Pellegrini?
If European success is what we're after then we couldn't do a lot better than Benitez, his tactical nous in working towards big matches, particularly in Europe, has been proven to be outstanding. It's his longevity over the course of the season domestically to keep relentlessly picking up points towards the title that would be the worry, but then when has he been in charge of an elite club in recent years to have the chance to demonstrate this anyway?
I often joked that I'd have Benitez as our European manager and Mancini as our PL manager.

Whoever said he'd stifle creativity was correct in my view. I wouldn't want him but I do want someone who sends a team out that looks like it's prepared properly for games and a manager who could make tactical adjustments during the course of the game.

Yesterday, when it was clear we were getting ripped to shreds down our right, he should have moved Milner over there to back up Zab and Navas and nullify the threat. Yet he did nothing and watched it all unravel.
Just how dull were Liverpool under Benitez? He forced Gerrard to play a more attacking role as opposed to the defensive way he played under Houllier, allowed the likes of Luis Garcia to do whatever he wanted, got the best out of the likes of Torres, Alonso etc.

It wasn't all stifling 1-0s

<a class="postlink" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRrt5FeZWME" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRrt5FeZWME</a>
 
Keith Moon said:
BigOscar said:
Jorge Jesus, just for the banter

This club is only big enough for one Jesus.
Jorge would probably be arrogant enough to take on the real Jesus tbh. He's almost a cartoon character made in the minds of what english people like from a manager. Attacking football, ridiculous press conferences, hated by rivals, jumps up and down like a lunatic on the touchline, offers to fight rival managers, while winning football matches. I'm still not convinced he's a real person
 
nmc said:
stony said:
Manc in London said:
At least the appointment of Redknapp until the end of the season would provide some light relief.

If a short term appointment, I do hope it is someone who at least knows the league and can settle in straight away. We don't need a tactical genius or someone with a great track record. We just need someone who can galvanise the team and make us difficult to score against. It's not too much to ask.

I wasn't being serious mate. I'd be mortified if we signed Harry.

Imagine Harry let lose with our owners millions - Defoe, Crouch Krankjar - smashing lads, triffic...

It's not just the money he'd spunk, it's the fact that his mates in the media would know the ins and outs of everything at the club. It would be like a second income for him.
 
bluefandk said:
Ray78 said:
Sabella is the most obvious choice.

Why? He is not exactly a top tier maneger.


maybe because he is available, willing to come, and also because the sheikh once tried to hire him before for Al-Jazira FC so maybe thinks he will be an adequate for what we need now(but not long term),

Or maybe it ain't him at all and just a rumour, if pellers is gone let paddy look after the team till the season ends
 
Those against Ancelotti might have a reasonable point about him being ideal for a team full of top class players, and not building a team of youngsters.

But...

Are we going to be buying a youth team in the summer, or are we intending to be buying some of the world's top players to add to the top players we want to keep?
 
meltonblue said:
I'm in two minds about all of it.

On the one hand, I don't think we have bought well since Aguero and yet we have won two titles in that period and have been hampered by the restrictions.

On the one hand, our players are not up to scratch this year and the investment in our squad and it's value is now behind both United and Chelsea. On the other, it was only January that we were exactly level with them.

On the one hand, Pellegrini has had a very poor season and has been tactically naive. On the other, his starting system yesterday was spot on and it is not creation of chances that is killing us, it is not taking them.

On the one hand jeremy beadle had a small nob. On the other...

It goes on and on.

All three - signings, players and the manager are to blame. The easiest to change is the latter but that won't solve all of our problems in the long run. This summer is going to be pivotal and I just hope that we are still taking the long term view. What I want to see more than anything is more communication from the club about that long term strategy so that the short term pain can be contextualised better. Without that, I fear this could easily turn into an endless cycle where one season (and only actually half a season) results in mass change far too often.

Changing managers never solves all the problems and often it creates new ones.

As Justin Hayward once penned its a question of balance.

Getting the next breed of City winners is far more important.

This lot has run its race and they should be commended for doing a decent job on the home front.

Now its time to start to get serious about both but will stumble at times along the way.

Nothing comes easy in football and nothing comes easy for City its in our DNA.
 
FanchesterCity said:
Those against Ancelotti might have a reasonable point about him being ideal for a team full of top class players, and not building a team of youngsters.

But...

Are we going to be buying a youth team in the summer, or are we intending to be buying some of the world's top players to add to the top players we want to keep?

- plus Txiki will be doing most of the buying (presumably)
- Ancelotti might be able to better attract big names
 
Jordan CTID said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN said:
How far up are we feeling this disturbance, hopefully not too high but then again high enough

Lot of politics in play, and we can be confident the real Force is involved.

Vested interests at other clubs.

If Real lose to Atleti then Ancelotti?
Could it be pep ? The sheik n chairman goin all out for him for the summer
 
I really want to see what viera could do. Inexperienced but sod it. Two quality managers have failed to keep a lid on this squad, both ended up with a bunch of unhappy set of twats. One thing we won't get with PV is 442, unlike mancini and pellegrini. Brings a couple of youngsters into the squad along with some quality signings, I can't see why not. I've always backed pellegrini but yesterday annoyed me and all the frustration during one season got to me. PV till the end of the season, then see where it goes from there.

We all know pellegrini is staying till the end of the season though.
 
FanchesterCity said:
Those against Ancelotti might have a reasonable point about him being ideal for a team full of top class players, and not building a team of youngsters.

But...

Are we going to be buying a youth team in the summer, or are we intending to be buying some of the world's top players to add to the top players we want to keep?

We will be doing what Chelsea did a few years ago and buy players in the 18-24 age bracket like Oscar, Hazard, Azpilicueta, Courtois, De Bruyne, Shurrle etc etc knowing full well that they may not win a title for a few years but will go for the cups in the meantime whilst a new title winning team can be built.

Ancelotti isn't the man for that in my opinion.
 
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