Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini (2014/15)

[mosssideblue]

One thing that I do feel marks supporters out as clueless is when they come on here and bandy that word about in relation to the manager.

You think a professional football manager who made it to the very top of the game ISN'T an expert?

Throughlly bizarre opinion

It reminds me of the old adage, that it's a shame that all the people who could sort the country out are far to busy cutting hair and driving taxies

Spot on.

Dont know why were looking at Pep et al, there are far better qualified on here.

 

[uwe rosler 28]

Nice to see the manager having the balls to drop big name players just what they needed for me! I'd change lampard for diniho and that would be my team for the rest of the season as good as balanced as our team can be playing 4-4-2

 

[moomba]

It reminds me of the old adage, that it's a shame that all the people who could sort the country out are far to busy cutting hair and driving taxies

We could have a forum devoted to discussing how to sort the country, and then have everyone just say "oh, the people in charge are better qualified than me so I'll just agree with what they say".

 

[Phil1]

You think a professional football manager who made it to the very top of the game ISN'T an expert?

Throughlly bizarre opinion

It reminds me of the old adage, that it's a shame that all the people who could sort the country out are far to busy cutting hair and driving taxies

Spot on.

Dont know why were looking at Pep et al, there are far better qualified on here.

No, there are people on here who have been following football long enough to have their own opinion. That's all there is too it. Disagree by all means but all this "fans know fuck all and should keep quiet" is bollocks - the fact it comes from two mods who are extremely intelligent doesn't alter that.

 

[BobKowalski]

One thing that I do feel marks supporters out as clueless is when they come on here and bandy that word about in relation to the manager.

You think a professional football manager who made it to the very top of the game ISN'T an expert?

Throughlly bizarre opinion

It reminds me of the old adage, that it's a shame that all the people who could sort the country out are far to busy cutting hair and driving taxies

So what do you want? Posts to be vetted to ensure they meet with committee approval? 99.9% of stuff posted on here or any football forum is largely emotionally charged drivel. None of us are actually qualified to comment on the manager. We could employ Neil Warnock and he would still know more about the fucking job than any of us so I say again what exactly do you want? Keep our opinions to ourselves? Have only a few approved posters with rest of us pressing the 'like' button like nodding dogs?

A forum needs regulation. It's not entirely a free for all but equally you do not want to create an atmosphere where people are inhibited or disinclined to give an opinion even if that opinion is absolute arse.

 

[FanchesterCity]

Because after 7 years on Bluemoon Ive come to the conclusion that most spporters haven't a clue :)

And the whole thing of football being an expert domain, which you have to have expert knowledge of to professionally manage which supporters dont possess.

But mainly the first one

One thing that I do feel marks supporters out as clueless is when they come on here and bandy that word about in relation to the manager.

You think a professional football manager who made it to the very top of the game ISN'T an expert?

Throughlly bizarre opinion

I have to say, I don't necessarily think a football manager who made it the very top is an expert.
Plenty of managers have made it to the top and nosedived right after, thus suggesting it wasn't their expertise that got them to the top, but a series of opportune appointments and a face that fits.
If it were down to expertise, you'd expect that same expertise to offer continued success over a number of years.

I'm not saying all top managers are charlatans, merely that not all top managers are necessarily experts.

I would say some might have great motivation skills, OR they might motivate players merely because of their stature in the game, but that doesn't equate to them being experts.

 

[waspish]

Do we have a dead ball taker? Because it seems anyone takes them and all are poor mainly! Take west Brom today they had about 5 dead ball situation and put in a decent ball everytime... This is what Pellegrini is letting himself down in...

 

[blueinsa]

It reminds me of the old adage, that it's a shame that all the people who could sort the country out are far to busy cutting hair and driving taxies

Spot on.

Dont know why were looking at Pep et al, there are far better qualified on here.

No, there are people on here who have been following football long enough to have their own opinion. That's all there is too it. Disagree by all means but all this "fans know fuck all and should keep quiet" is bollocks - the fact it comes from two mods who are extremely intelligent doesn't alter that.

Agreed. Whilst we all might talk bollox from time to time, its what this place is for.

 

[PragueBlue]

You think a professional football manager who made it to the very top of the game ISN'T an expert?

Throughlly bizarre opinion

It reminds me of the old adage, that it's a shame that all the people who could sort the country out are far to busy cutting hair and driving taxies

If it wasn't for those clueless supporters posting their clueless opinions, you guys would be struggling for plans on a Saturday night

Yes, hopefully they have never criticised a manager before (including the likes of world cup winner Alan Ball!).


As for today, I had mixed feelings when I heard the team. On the one hand I was pleased to see Pellegrini have the strength to leave some of our non-performing stars out of the starting line up. On the other hand I was a little worried about having 2 central midfielders that lack pace and mobility.

Ultimately it's difficult to draw many conclusions due to the very early sending off. It became more like a training game but perhaps that was largely down to our good play.

We had lots of chances and should have scored more but it was overall a very good and pleasing performance and just what we needed to hopefully boost confidence. Let's hope we can push on from here and secure 2nd place.

 

[Marvin]

We still had to break WBA down but did it with ease.

Navas is a key player in helping us do that. He stretches teams and retains possession out wide. The defenders have to shuffle over, and he passes it inside. Some fans get frustrated when he does hat. But it shifts defenders out of position

I wish we'd try Bony and Aguero together upfront.

Bony played very well, but I don't like to see him that deep.

Lots of people have criticised Pellegrini for playing 442 but our very best football was the start of last season when we had Aguero and Negredo up front, with Navas supplying them both, and this season when we've named 2 forwards in the starting line up, Aguero has dropped really deep.

 

[Ducado]

You think a professional football manager who made it to the very top of the game ISN'T an expert?

Throughlly bizarre opinion

It reminds me of the old adage, that it's a shame that all the people who could sort the country out are far to busy cutting hair and driving taxies

So what do you want? Posts to be vetted to ensure they meet with committee approval? 99.9% of stuff posted on here or any football forum is largely emotionally charged drivel. None of us are actually qualified to comment on the manager. We could employ Neil Warnock and he would still know more about the fucking job than any of us so I say again what exactly do you want? Keep our opinions to ourselves? Have only a few approved posters with rest of us pressing the 'like' button like nodding dogs?

A forum needs regulation. It's not entirely a free for all but equally you do not want to create an atmosphere where people are inhibited or disinclined to give an opinion even if that opinion is absolute arse.

It was just an observation and long may it continue

 

[OB1]

I fully expect him to select the team he thinks will win.

Don't see the problem with anyone saying they don't agree with that selection.

We had 43 shots and you want to come on and say you didn't agree with the selection.

It's a free country.

You old fraud. The team selection today became academic after just 89 seconds and you know it. Thereafter West Brom were obliged to sit back and Spanish Dave was freed from all defensive responsibility. We certainly played well, and there were no issues in the middle of midfield as I'd feared, but whether that was due to an inspired team selection by the manager or purely down to circumstance, we'll never know!

I don't see anyone suggesting the team selection was inspired but it is fair to say that I did not share your prematch concern; it did amuse me though.

Of course we cannot know exactly how much influence the early sending off had on City but the mood, professionalism and composure of the players plus the excellence of Lampard, Fernando and Silva's performances may not have been down to the sending off. What is for certain is that we did not get a whiff of the sort of complacency that scuppered the home game against Burnley.

Coming on here and complaining about the team selection after that performance is, in my opinion, well, let's call it mean spirited.

 

[cleavers]

What is for certain is that we did not get a whiff of the sort of composure that scuppered the home game against Burnley.

I'm not so sure about that, at 2-0 after half time, we struggled to get the creative passing going again, despite the possession, then when Lampard went off we let them get a bit of a head of steam up through midfield, and if they'd scored before our third I think it might have gone a different route, luckily Jolean's header missed, it woke us up.

43 goal attempts in a game, and only 3 goals should also be a bit of a worry.

On the plus side, last three league games at home won all three, three clean sheets, scored 10, so can't really complain, pity our great away form has suffered.

 

[OB1]

What is for certain is that we did not get a whiff of the sort of composure that scuppered the home game against Burnley.

I'm not so sure about that, at 2-0 after half time, we struggled to get the creative passing going again, despite the possession, then when Lampard went off we let them get a bit of a head of steam up through midfield, and if they'd scored before our third I think it might have gone a different route, luckily Jolean's header missed, it woke us up.

43 goal attempts in a game, and only 3 goals should also be a bit of a worry.

On the plus side, last three league games at home won all three, three clean sheets, scored 10, so can't really complain, pity our great away form has suffered.

3 from 43 was better than 0 from 21 at Burnley but still not a great conversion rate.

 

[flb]

A decent performance today, going down to 10 didn't halt there ability to park the bus, they came for a point and went home empty handed.A noticble improvement in pressing and workrate, whilst we lacked the creativity without the two lazy bastards we more than made up for it in guile and willingness to graft for the cause.

A back to basics performance, granted made easy with there only option of counter attacking failing miserably.

Bony will get better and better in this team- he will be the new beast in a blue shirt, decent game today , nice control for his goal too.Dzeko won't get any better in a City shirt sadly , we've seen the best of him.

Great three points after a bad fortnight.

 

[cleavers]

What is for certain is that we did not get a whiff of the sort of composure that scuppered the home game against Burnley.

I'm not so sure about that, at 2-0 after half time, we struggled to get the creative passing going again, despite the possession, then when Lampard went off we let them get a bit of a head of steam up through midfield, and if they'd scored before our third I think it might have gone a different route, luckily Jolean's header missed, it woke us up.

43 goal attempts in a game, and only 3 goals should also be a bit of a worry.

On the plus side, last three league games at home won all three, three clean sheets, scored 10, so can't really complain, pity our great away form has suffered.

3 from 43 was better than 0 from 21 at Burnley but still not a great conversion rate.

Oh I agree, and we did make the keeper make 12 saves, a pretty rare stat (unless we're playing barcelona obviously), and we hit the post twice and the bar, on a "lucky" day we might well have got double figures.

 

[bondsman]

Atmosphere at game today very strange. Didn't feel like I'd been to a game because it was never a contest after the sending off. The 442 selection pre match felt like a stuff you lot from pellers to me and I cannot understand why you sign lampard then never start him, then start him and sub him when it's a walk in park and he's doing ok. Just highlighted again for me pellers is not the man. Still no pace to our play. Still a lack of creativity. 3 scrappy goals and never once bar the bony foul saw us properly open them up. We are miles away from the team we were.

 

[cleavers]

Atmosphere at game today very strange. Didn't feel like I'd been to a game because it was never a contest after the sending off. The 442 selection pre match felt like a stuff you lot from pellers to me and I cannot understand why you sign lampard then never start him, then start him and sub him when it's a walk in park and he's doing ok. Just highlighted again for me pellers is not the man. Still no pace to our play. Still a lack of creativity. 3 scrappy goals and never once bar the bony foul saw us properly open them up. We are miles away from the team we were.

Glad you enjoyed it so much, 43 goal attempts, 12 saved by their keeper, won 3-0, but no you're right we were shit again.

 

[bondsman]

Atmosphere at game today very strange. Didn't feel like I'd been to a game because it was never a contest after the sending off. The 442 selection pre match felt like a stuff you lot from pellers to me and I cannot understand why you sign lampard then never start him, then start him and sub him when it's a walk in park and he's doing ok. Just highlighted again for me pellers is not the man. Still no pace to our play. Still a lack of creativity. 3 scrappy goals and never once bar the bony foul saw us properly open them up. We are miles away from the team we were.

Glad you enjoyed it so much, 43 goal attempts, 12 saved by their keeper, won 3-0, but no you're right we were shit again.

Be honest did you go? Atmosphere was gash. West brom had 10 for 85 mins and nowt to play for. 43 attempts and as I say 3 scrappy goals. All facts mate. Be honest did you go?

 

[cleavers]

Be honest did you go? Atmosphere was gash. West brom had 10 for 85 mins and nowt to play for. 43 attempts and as I say 3 scrappy goals. All facts mate. Be honest did you go?

Yeah, did you ? Left home at at 8:30am, got home at 6:30pm. Atmosphere was gash I agree, its hardly news breaking though.

43 attempts, 16 on target, 12 saved by the keeper, hit the woodwork 3 times, thank f**k I'm not the miserable you.