Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini (2014/15)

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini (interesting interview pg 115)

Before sacking the manager and buy in new players some of the spineless shits we have playing should be preforming to the standards we know they are capable of and putting up a fight until the end of the season.
All I want to see is some commitment to the fans and club that pay their wages PV should be allowed to have a word with some of them
 
Re: Manuel Pellegrini (interesting interview pg 115)

Damocles said:
Mister Appointment said:
cleavers said:
He'll be here longer than that imho.

Could prove to be a very testing time for those who have their hearts and minds firmly set on him leaving.

Must admit that my view has mellowed since Saturday. There's some things which I think will be important if he does stay this summer, probably the most important being to ensure that we don't add to the squad in such a manner that we continue to buy players solely to play in a 442 system. The root of that is the 4 strikers in the squad thing which we've had since Mancini was in charge. I'd like to see Jovetic leave, and for us to replace him with a 'crack' winger - thus leaving us with Dzeko, Kun, and Bony as the three forwards. The other thing we need to look at desperately is a genuine ball playing midfield player (like Gundogan or Verrati). Again this type of player may not be suited to playing in a 442 but is a kind of player we absolutely need in the squad.

The key will be the turnover of players this summer. It certainly seems like all the noises are that after three years of limited spending due to FFP we can go out and add real first XI players to the squad. I personally expect that we'll see three/four new faces in the best XI next season. Could make all the difference.

Anyway onwards and upwards for tonight and the rest of the season.

I said after the game and after some initial concerns have always maintained, the man isn't a bad manager. You don't become a bad manager in the space of 10 games and last season he shown his ability to inspire this team to greatness as well as his tactical nous which is somehow questioned nowadays as it always is when things go badly, whether they are tactical geeks like AvB or charlatans like 'Arry.

He has one year left on his deal with probably not an extension forthcoming. Despite what happens tonight if he can manage to keep us second or third for the rest of the year then I see no reason for him to not see out the remainder of his deal. He isn't going to bring through young players and I accept that that isn't who he is as a manager so getting continuously upset by it is probably not the smartest thing in the world.

Have to disagree with one point though; I don't think Txiki is buying players to fit a 4-4-2. I think he buys players who improves the squad and leaves the rest for the manager to work out. It is how he worked at Barcelona and when you think about the purchases of people like Jovetic and Fernando who don't really fit that system then I think there's some merit to thinking that here too.

4 strikers gives you more options than 3 strikers. You can play any system then that relies on a 2 striker setup and do so knowing that you aren't having problems with rotation. Even if you never use your fourth striker, it is better to have the option available than not to have it. We have gaps in the squad already and removing potential options, which bear in mind that the next manager might want to use, seems to be self-defeating.

It's funny you say that, make of it what you will but an opportunity has arisen that we may find ourselves with a new striker next season.
 
Re: Manuel Pellegrini (interesting interview pg 115)

Danamy said:
Damocles said:
Mister Appointment said:
Could prove to be a very testing time for those who have their hearts and minds firmly set on him leaving.

Must admit that my view has mellowed since Saturday. There's some things which I think will be important if he does stay this summer, probably the most important being to ensure that we don't add to the squad in such a manner that we continue to buy players solely to play in a 442 system. The root of that is the 4 strikers in the squad thing which we've had since Mancini was in charge. I'd like to see Jovetic leave, and for us to replace him with a 'crack' winger - thus leaving us with Dzeko, Kun, and Bony as the three forwards. The other thing we need to look at desperately is a genuine ball playing midfield player (like Gundogan or Verrati). Again this type of player may not be suited to playing in a 442 but is a kind of player we absolutely need in the squad.

The key will be the turnover of players this summer. It certainly seems like all the noises are that after three years of limited spending due to FFP we can go out and add real first XI players to the squad. I personally expect that we'll see three/four new faces in the best XI next season. Could make all the difference.

Anyway onwards and upwards for tonight and the rest of the season.

I said after the game and after some initial concerns have always maintained, the man isn't a bad manager. You don't become a bad manager in the space of 10 games and last season he shown his ability to inspire this team to greatness as well as his tactical nous which is somehow questioned nowadays as it always is when things go badly, whether they are tactical geeks like AvB or charlatans like 'Arry.

He has one year left on his deal with probably not an extension forthcoming. Despite what happens tonight if he can manage to keep us second or third for the rest of the year then I see no reason for him to not see out the remainder of his deal. He isn't going to bring through young players and I accept that that isn't who he is as a manager so getting continuously upset by it is probably not the smartest thing in the world.

Have to disagree with one point though; I don't think Txiki is buying players to fit a 4-4-2. I think he buys players who improves the squad and leaves the rest for the manager to work out. It is how he worked at Barcelona and when you think about the purchases of people like Jovetic and Fernando who don't really fit that system then I think there's some merit to thinking that here too.

4 strikers gives you more options than 3 strikers. You can play any system then that relies on a 2 striker setup and do so knowing that you aren't having problems with rotation. Even if you never use your fourth striker, it is better to have the option available than not to have it. We have gaps in the squad already and removing potential options, which bear in mind that the next manager might want to use, seems to be self-defeating.

It's funny you say that, make of it what you will but an opportunity has arisen that we may find ourselves with a new striker next season.
I'd hope so if Jovetic and Dzeko are leaving. Jovetic is nailed on, not so sure on Edin but if the right offer came in I'm sure we'd do a deal.

So Messi and Bale in one window, not a bad starting point :)
 
Re: Manuel Pellegrini (interesting interview pg 115)

The new summer signings will not be effected all that much with Pellegrini only having one year left on his current deal.
 
Re: Manuel Pellegrini (interesting interview pg 115)

Danamy said:
Damocles said:
Mister Appointment said:
Could prove to be a very testing time for those who have their hearts and minds firmly set on him leaving.

Must admit that my view has mellowed since Saturday. There's some things which I think will be important if he does stay this summer, probably the most important being to ensure that we don't add to the squad in such a manner that we continue to buy players solely to play in a 442 system. The root of that is the 4 strikers in the squad thing which we've had since Mancini was in charge. I'd like to see Jovetic leave, and for us to replace him with a 'crack' winger - thus leaving us with Dzeko, Kun, and Bony as the three forwards. The other thing we need to look at desperately is a genuine ball playing midfield player (like Gundogan or Verrati). Again this type of player may not be suited to playing in a 442 but is a kind of player we absolutely need in the squad.

The key will be the turnover of players this summer. It certainly seems like all the noises are that after three years of limited spending due to FFP we can go out and add real first XI players to the squad. I personally expect that we'll see three/four new faces in the best XI next season. Could make all the difference.

Anyway onwards and upwards for tonight and the rest of the season.

I said after the game and after some initial concerns have always maintained, the man isn't a bad manager. You don't become a bad manager in the space of 10 games and last season he shown his ability to inspire this team to greatness as well as his tactical nous which is somehow questioned nowadays as it always is when things go badly, whether they are tactical geeks like AvB or charlatans like 'Arry.

He has one year left on his deal with probably not an extension forthcoming. Despite what happens tonight if he can manage to keep us second or third for the rest of the year then I see no reason for him to not see out the remainder of his deal. He isn't going to bring through young players and I accept that that isn't who he is as a manager so getting continuously upset by it is probably not the smartest thing in the world.

Have to disagree with one point though; I don't think Txiki is buying players to fit a 4-4-2. I think he buys players who improves the squad and leaves the rest for the manager to work out. It is how he worked at Barcelona and when you think about the purchases of people like Jovetic and Fernando who don't really fit that system then I think there's some merit to thinking that here too.

4 strikers gives you more options than 3 strikers. You can play any system then that relies on a 2 striker setup and do so knowing that you aren't having problems with rotation. Even if you never use your fourth striker, it is better to have the option available than not to have it. We have gaps in the squad already and removing potential options, which bear in mind that the next manager might want to use, seems to be self-defeating.

It's funny you say that, make of it what you will but an opportunity has arisen that we may find ourselves with a new striker next season.

Then I'd expect Dzeko to leave as well as Jovetic.

I do like the fact it's becoming clear the gloves are coming off in the summer window.
 
Re: Manuel Pellegrini (interesting interview pg 115)

Mister Appointment said:
Danamy said:
It's funny you say that, make of it what you will but an opportunity has arisen that we may find ourselves with a new striker next season.

Then I'd expect Dzeko to leave as well as Jovetic.

I do like the fact it's becoming clear the gloves are coming off in the summer window.

I'm hoping we sell the above pair as I believe we can improve on them,in regards both ability and team cohesion.

Hasn't Ibra recently upset his bosses??
 
Re: Manuel Pellegrini (interesting interview pg 115)

Pablo1 said:
Danamy said:
Damocles said:
I said after the game and after some initial concerns have always maintained, the man isn't a bad manager. You don't become a bad manager in the space of 10 games and last season he shown his ability to inspire this team to greatness as well as his tactical nous which is somehow questioned nowadays as it always is when things go badly, whether they are tactical geeks like AvB or charlatans like 'Arry.

He has one year left on his deal with probably not an extension forthcoming. Despite what happens tonight if he can manage to keep us second or third for the rest of the year then I see no reason for him to not see out the remainder of his deal. He isn't going to bring through young players and I accept that that isn't who he is as a manager so getting continuously upset by it is probably not the smartest thing in the world.

Have to disagree with one point though; I don't think Txiki is buying players to fit a 4-4-2. I think he buys players who improves the squad and leaves the rest for the manager to work out. It is how he worked at Barcelona and when you think about the purchases of people like Jovetic and Fernando who don't really fit that system then I think there's some merit to thinking that here too.

4 strikers gives you more options than 3 strikers. You can play any system then that relies on a 2 striker setup and do so knowing that you aren't having problems with rotation. Even if you never use your fourth striker, it is better to have the option available than not to have it. We have gaps in the squad already and removing potential options, which bear in mind that the next manager might want to use, seems to be self-defeating.

It's funny you say that, make of it what you will but an opportunity has arisen that we may find ourselves with a new striker next season.
I'd hope so if Jovetic and Dzeko are leaving. Jovetic is nailed on, not so sure on Edin but if the right offer came in I'm sure we'd do a deal.

So Messi and Bale in one window, not a bad starting point :)

When you sit down for a meal, sometimes you choose something off the main menu and then you change your mind once you've been shown the specials board ;-)
 
Re: Manuel Pellegrini (interesting interview pg 115)

Danamy said:
Pablo1 said:
Danamy said:
It's funny you say that, make of it what you will but an opportunity has arisen that we may find ourselves with a new striker next season.
I'd hope so if Jovetic and Dzeko are leaving. Jovetic is nailed on, not so sure on Edin but if the right offer came in I'm sure we'd do a deal.

So Messi and Bale in one window, not a bad starting point :)

When you sit down for a meal, sometimes you choose something off the main menu and then you change your mind once you've been shown the specials board ;-)

I'd rather we start choosing from the a la carte tbh.

We've been dining off the main menu and the specials board for the last three summers.
 
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