Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini (2014/15)

[blueinsa]

Give what up?

so you've no opinion on what I'm discussing, wherever I may or may not have a point? Just a couple of Haha's and a daft picture?
You crack on mate.

Your opinion was laughable hence the "haha" and your continued defence of it warranted the "daft picture".

 

[Phil1]

so you've no opinion on what I'm discussing, wherever I may or may not have a point? Just a couple of Haha's and a daft picture?
You crack on mate.

Your opinion was laughable hence the "haha" and your continued defence of it warranted the "daft picture".

What was laughable? Explain, go you can do it.
I thought Lampard and Fernado's jobs were made easier by a 3rd minute sending off. I'm not sure I'd trust that midfield 2 against many sides.
That's it, that's all there is to it. Go on, I know you like to keep things simple but just one reason why it was so "laughable" and I'll be on my merry way.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

You've got no chance against the politburo Pablo. Many of us have been brow beaten into submission.
It was a professional performance against 10 men, with any threat they might have posed effectively snuffed out after 3 minutes. We were as good as they were poor. You couldn't have asked for more from our players but equally it is hard to assess any implications from today going into the remaining matches.
Basically a good performance and a much needed 3 points.

 

[moomba]

Was really disappointed with the selection today, and while I'm pleased with the result I'm still disappointed with the selection.

I sensed a bit of a change in Pellegrini this week. The interview early in the week, a bit of personality in the press conference yesterday, hints of freshening things up. Looks like he'll be happy to keep things the same, and sink or swim doing that.

 

[blueinsa]

so you've no opinion on what I'm discussing, wherever I may or may not have a point? Just a couple of Haha's and a daft picture?
You crack on mate.

Your opinion was laughable hence the "haha" and your continued defence of it warranted the "daft picture".

What was laughable? Explain, go you can do it.
I thought Lampard and Fernado's jobs were made easier by a 3rd minute sending off. I'm not sure I'd trust that midfield 2 against many sides.
That's it, that's all there is to it. Go on, I know you like to keep things simple but just one reason why it was so "laughable" and I'll be on my merry way.

We battered them and I do mean battered! No amount of midfielders they could muster today would have made a jot of difference to the result, we were that superior in every aspect of the game.

Calm in possession with incredible pass accuracy showing great patience and movement to create a near record amount of chances for a Premier league game.

The near perfect performance against a side playing the bus, train and anything else they could muster behind the ball.

If you didn't see that then change your seat and get a better view and to suggest otherwise is churlish in the extreme, especially when its done to demean what was an excellent performance with both Lampard and Fernando excelling.

 

[Centurions]

Guess thats why hes a professional managing one of the top clubs in the world hey?

Why are you so insistent that managers get it right just because they've been in the game for a while whilst supporters haven't a clue?
Today proves nothing, a third minute sending off changed the whole complexion of the game. The two central midfielders were given a free pass to do what they wanted under no pressure at all. Had they remained with 11 I suspect we'd have seen a different game.

You suspect that and you would inevitably be right up to a point but I doubt it would have been vastly different in that WBA were always likely to concnetrate on getting men behind that ball. Also, Lampard covered a lot of ground when he started a game in the UCL so Pellegrini porbably, and rightly, had a lot more faith in his mobility than some supporters. He also probably has more faith in Fernando than most supporters and that was well placed today: Fernando had a very good game.

There's a number of things about Pellegrini's approach and the results he has produced this season that I am not that happy about but I have no doubt that Pellegrini knows what he is trying to achieve and has good reasons for doing what he does. And whether any of us likes what he does, he is proven as a top manager and none of us that comment on here are remotely close to having that kind of ability.

I was going to reply to Pablo but there's no point since you covered absolutely everything, good post.

 

[robbieh]

so you've no opinion on what I'm discussing, wherever I may or may not have a point? Just a couple of Haha's and a daft picture?
You crack on mate.

Your opinion was laughable hence the "haha" and your continued defence of it warranted the "daft picture".

What was laughable? Explain, go you can do it.
I thought Lampard and Fernado's jobs were made easier by a 3rd minute sending off. I'm not sure I'd trust that midfield 2 against many sides.
That's it, that's all there is to it. Go on, I know you like to keep things simple but just one reason why it was so "laughable" and I'll be on my merry way.

Pablo. Don't waste your time. Blueinsa and the rest of the Pellegrini fanboys are as arrogant as DD and BS were in the past. Just let em get on with it.

 

[mosssideblue]

Was really disappointed with the selection today, and while I'm pleased with the result I'm still disappointed with the selection.

I sensed a bit of a change in Pellegrini this week. The interview early in the week, a bit of personality in the press conference yesterday, hints of freshening things up. Looks like he'll be happy to keep things the same, and sink or swim doing that.

His selection today was spot on. He would have expected Pulis to play a very defensive side and literally park the bus trying to hold out for a draw, so played what he considered was a stong eneough team to cope. And they coped admirably.

Its sorrowful to see many still having a pop at the manager after a win. More than the win though, that would give confidence to those low on it at the moment.

He picks his team to match what he expects to have playing him, not what Bluemooners want to see.

 

[blueinsa]

Your opinion was laughable hence the "haha" and your continued defence of it warranted the "daft picture".

What was laughable? Explain, go you can do it.
I thought Lampard and Fernado's jobs were made easier by a 3rd minute sending off. I'm not sure I'd trust that midfield 2 against many sides.
That's it, that's all there is to it. Go on, I know you like to keep things simple but just one reason why it was so "laughable" and I'll be on my merry way.

Pablo. Don't waste your time. Blueinsa and the rest of the Pellegrini fanboys are as arrogant as DD and BS were in the past. Just let em get on with it.

Enjoy the win and stop fucking moaning

You all called him out pre match for getting it wrong again and he rammed it down your throats. Deal with it!

Pellegrini fanboy ffs? He could fuck off tomorrow and I wouldn't bat an eye lid as managers, like players come and go and he too will go soon enough but whilst he is here and doing things like he did last season he will get my support, especially after a great performance like today.

 

[moomba]

His selection today was spot on. He would have expected Pulis to play a very defensive side and literally park the bus trying to hold out for a draw, so played what he considered was a stong eneough team to cope. And they coped admirably.

Its sorrowful to see many still having a pop at the manager after a win. More than the win though, that would give confidence to those low on it at the moment.

He picks his team to match what he expects to have playing him, not what Bluemooners want to see.

I fully expect him to select the team he thinks will win.

Don't see the problem with anyone saying they don't agree with that selection.

 

[OB1]

His selection today was spot on. He would have expected Pulis to play a very defensive side and literally park the bus trying to hold out for a draw, so played what he considered was a stong eneough team to cope. And they coped admirably.

Its sorrowful to see many still having a pop at the manager after a win. More than the win though, that would give confidence to those low on it at the moment.

He picks his team to match what he expects to have playing him, not what Bluemooners want to see.

I fully expect him to select the team he thinks will win.

Don't see the problem with anyone saying they don't agree with that selection.

We had 43 shots and you want to come on and say you didn't agree with the selection.

It's a free country.

 

[moomba]

We had 43 shots and you want to come on and say you didn't agree with the selection.

It's free country.

Against 10 men for 89 minutes. On another day we would have been up against 11 and IMO would have struggled. Had we played that game (or a large part of it) against 11 men, and still dominated I would have been the first to say that on this occasion I was wrong to have doubts about the selection.

But given the circumstances of this game, it really proved nothing to me.

 

[Centurions]

Your opinion was laughable hence the "haha" and your continued defence of it warranted the "daft picture".

What was laughable? Explain, go you can do it.
I thought Lampard and Fernado's jobs were made easier by a 3rd minute sending off. I'm not sure I'd trust that midfield 2 against many sides.
That's it, that's all there is to it. Go on, I know you like to keep things simple but just one reason why it was so "laughable" and I'll be on my merry way.

Pablo. Don't waste your time. Blueinsa and the rest of the Pellegrini fanboys are as arrogant as DD and BS were in the past. Just let em get on with it.

So anyone who doesn't share the same opinion as yourself is a "fanboy" and "arrogant" (I'm surprised you didn't spell that "fan boi")? I presume you think Pablo is a coherent and unbiased poster since he shares your view?

 

[Phil1]

Your opinion was laughable hence the "haha" and your continued defence of it warranted the "daft picture".

What was laughable? Explain, go you can do it.
I thought Lampard and Fernado's jobs were made easier by a 3rd minute sending off. I'm not sure I'd trust that midfield 2 against many sides.
That's it, that's all there is to it. Go on, I know you like to keep things simple but just one reason why it was so "laughable" and I'll be on my merry way.

We battered them and I do mean battered! No amount of midfielders they could muster today would have made a jot of difference to the result, we were that superior in every aspect of the game.

Calm in possession with incredible pass accuracy showing great patience and movement to create a near record amount of chances for a Premier league game.

The near perfect performance against a side playing the bus, train and anything else they could muster behind the ball.

If you didn't see that then change your seat and get a better view and to suggest otherwise is churlish in the extreme, especially when its done to demean what was an excellent performance with both Lampard and Fernando excelling.

Your first paragraph - we'll never know due to the red card.
Your second paragraph - well of course we were calm in possesion. WBA sat off us from the third minute and offered nothing going forward.
Your third paragraph - mine and your views on near perfect differ. I can accept that.
Your fourth paragraph - I'm happy with my seat, it's not churlish, it's my opinion. Lampard and Fernado played well. "Excelling" might be pushing it but nothing wrong with a bit of hyperbole to try and prove your point more.

 

[Rösler von Stretfordbömber]

What was laughable? Explain, go you can do it.
I thought Lampard and Fernado's jobs were made easier by a 3rd minute sending off. I'm not sure I'd trust that midfield 2 against many sides.
That's it, that's all there is to it. Go on, I know you like to keep things simple but just one reason why it was so "laughable" and I'll be on my merry way.

Pablo. Don't waste your time. Blueinsa and the rest of the Pellegrini fanboys are as arrogant as DD and BS were in the past. Just let em get on with it.

Enjoy the win and stop fucking moaning

You all called him out pre match for getting it wrong again and he rammed it down your throats. Deal with it!

Pellegrini fanboy ffs? He could fuck off tomorrow and I wouldn't bat an eye lid as managers, like players come and go and he too will go soon enough but whilst he is here and doing things like he did last season he will get my support, especially after a great performance like today.

Good point.

I've always been a MCFC fanboy myself. I am happy when we win. Unhappy when we lose. If I have an opinion about team selection and it proves wrong and we win then I'm happy. If it proves correct and we lose then I'm unhappy.

As for Pellers. Hmmm, two years, two trophies, a first and most likely second place finish. Certainly 9 (and probably 10 or 12) points gained against the Trafford Bacillii. Two straight years going farther than FC Mancini ever did in the UCL. Seems like a managerial record to be happy about to me.

But one is of the "Politburo" to feel this way, apparently? Seems like 99/100 non-rags and non-newbie/glory-hunter/straight nutters would judge this as being perfectly fucking logical.

 

[BobKowalski]

His selection today was spot on. He would have expected Pulis to play a very defensive side and literally park the bus trying to hold out for a draw, so played what he considered was a stong eneough team to cope. And they coped admirably.

Its sorrowful to see many still having a pop at the manager after a win. More than the win though, that would give confidence to those low on it at the moment.

He picks his team to match what he expects to have playing him, not what Bluemooners want to see.

I fully expect him to select the team he thinks will win.

Don't see the problem with anyone saying they don't agree with that selection.

We had 43 shots and you want to come on and say you didn't agree with the selection.

It's a free country.

It is. I did feel some unease at a Fern and Lamps twosome but after 83 seconds it ceased to be an issue and today had to be one of the easiest games we will ever play at this level. For Pellers it was a routine win and some much needed solace after the last week or so. As for the title...it's back on! Well no idea if it is but it would be hilarious if we did go on to win it and no one would be laughing harder than Pellers if we did pull it off.

I don't think that this game told us anything about Pellers or the squad. I do think there are some on here who are being a tad precious with their over the top reaction to any perceived criticism of Pellers and I look forward to Damocles opening his on line course on 'How to post on Football Forums' so that we can all get his stamp of approval in the future. I am sure BM will be the better for it.

 

[Damocles]

Why are you so insistent that managers get it right just because they've been in the game for a while whilst supporters haven't a clue?
Today proves nothing, a third minute sending off changed the whole complexion of the game. The two central midfielders were given a free pass to do what they wanted under no pressure at all. Had they remained with 11 I suspect we'd have seen a different game.

Because after 7 years on Bluemoon Ive come to the conclusion that most spporters haven't a clue :)

And the whole thing of football being an expert domain, which you have to have expert knowledge of to professionally manage which supporters dont possess.

But mainly the first one

One thing that I do feel marks supporters out as clueless is when they come on here and bandy that word about in relation to the manager.

You think a professional football manager who made it to the very top of the game ISN'T an expert?

Throughlly bizarre opinion

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

His selection today was spot on. He would have expected Pulis to play a very defensive side and literally park the bus trying to hold out for a draw, so played what he considered was a stong eneough team to cope. And they coped admirably.

Its sorrowful to see many still having a pop at the manager after a win. More than the win though, that would give confidence to those low on it at the moment.

He picks his team to match what he expects to have playing him, not what Bluemooners want to see.

I fully expect him to select the team he thinks will win.

Don't see the problem with anyone saying they don't agree with that selection.

We had 43 shots and you want to come on and say you didn't agree with the selection.

It's a free country.

You old fraud. The team selection today became academic after just 89 seconds and you know it. Thereafter West Brom were obliged to sit back and Spanish Dave was freed from all defensive responsibility. We certainly played well, and there were no issues in the middle of midfield as I'd feared, but whether that was due to an inspired team selection by the manager or purely down to circumstance, we'll never know!

 

[Ducado]

Because after 7 years on Bluemoon Ive come to the conclusion that most spporters haven't a clue :)

And the whole thing of football being an expert domain, which you have to have expert knowledge of to professionally manage which supporters dont possess.

But mainly the first one

One thing that I do feel marks supporters out as clueless is when they come on here and bandy that word about in relation to the manager.

You think a professional football manager who made it to the very top of the game ISN'T an expert?

Throughlly bizarre opinion

It reminds me of the old adage, that it's a shame that all the people who could sort the country out are far to busy cutting hair and driving taxies

 

[chris85mcfc]

One thing that I do feel marks supporters out as clueless is when they come on here and bandy that word about in relation to the manager.

You think a professional football manager who made it to the very top of the game ISN'T an expert?

Throughlly bizarre opinion

It reminds me of the old adage, that it's a shame that all the people who could sort the country out are far to busy cutting hair and driving taxies

If it wasn't for those clueless supporters posting their clueless opinions, you guys would be struggling for plans on a Saturday night