Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini 2015/16

[kaz7]

Not even kicked a fucking ball in anger yet and the idiots are out in force pmsl.

Why don't you just accept that some people just don't like or rate him rather than call people idiots

 

[Burtonblue]

Yup.

Everyone is entitled to a rant and/or a reasoned opinion. However, can't people at least wait until the season starts?

We also have to wait until September for fully-fit Kun, DMD and the Zab. Patience, please!

All very well invoking patience but we cannot afford to give the likes of Maureen and Wenger a head start for three weeks in August.
I guess that's the problem with having a high percentage of top S Americans in our squad. Maybe that should be taken into consideration in the future when re-shaping the squad.

 

[Shaelumstash]

Unfortunately. Same kamikaze football. The performance today simply was kamikaze football, unbelievable really.

I think that's the problem. Some at the club, certainly the manager, and a fair few on here, think "attractive" football means attack at all costs, kamikaze football, and forget about defending. I call it Pellikeegan football.

Personally I find teams attractive who have a balance between attacking and defending.

It's only pre season so I'm not going to get too carried away. However, to echo other posters, Pellegrini is very lucky to still be in a job after his ineptitude last season.

The only reason he still has a job is because we are one year away from appointing the best coach in football, and it makes more sense to keep him than appointing a Benitez type figure on a one year contract.

 

[PragueBlue]

I just wish he would abandon pressing high up the pitch as we just don't do it effectively, leaving so much space for the opposition. With that he should scrap the high defensive line as it doesn't suit our players. Drop the defence deeper, get our midfield behind the ball and press when the ball is in our own half.

I don't think it's coincidence that so many of our defenders have lost form since policy of pressing high up the pitch with a high defensive line was introduced. Play to their strengths and we'll see them back to their best.

 

[baildon blue]

Yup.

Everyone is entitled to a rant and/or a reasoned opinion. However, can't people at least wait until the season starts?

We also have to wait until September for fully-fit Kun, DMD and the Zab. Patience, please!

Stuggart aren't a brilliant team .
He knew who was available .
Even Keegan could set up a team for a 0-0 draw .

Yup.

Everyone is entitled to a rant and/or a reasoned opinion. However, can't people at least wait until the season starts?

We also have to wait until September

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

The problem of not studying his opponents still seems to be his weak point. You don't just field an 11 without knowing the shape your opponent would take. Its just a pre-season game but I am not really sure if MP and his partner can turn a new leaf.

 

[robbieh]

appointing the best coach in football,

Agree with everything apart from this. For me there is a question mark against him. Bayern have gone backwards under him and Barca won the treble with Luis Enrique showing that when you have Inieta, Xavi at their peak or Suarez and Neymar with Messi thrown on top then winning the lot is possible even for a manager that bombed at Roma. How good is Pep, I guess we and the world will find out next year.

Back to the present. Today Navas, Bony, Sterling, Silva and Nasri in font of a novice midfielder. Results predictable. For me Pellegrini is a joke and I reckon he'll be gone by Christmas. Vieira will fill in until season's end.

 

[Shaelumstash]

Agree with everything apart from this. For me there is a question mark against him. Bayern have gone backwards under him and Barca won the treble with Luis Enrique showing that when you have Inieta, Xavi at their peak or Suarez and Neymar with Messi thrown on top then winning the lot is possible even for a manager that bombed at Roma. How good is Pep, I guess we and the world will find out next year.

Back to the present. Today Navas, Bony, Sterling, Silva and Nasri in font of a novice midfielder. Results predictable. For me Pellegrini is a joke and I reckon he'll be gone by Christmas. Vieira will fill in until season's end.

I understand your point about Pep, but it's unreasonable to expect him to win the treble every season, no matter which club he's at.

First season at Bayern he won the double and went out to the eventual winners in the CL semi's.

Second season he won the league by a record margin, lost in the cup final, and went out to the eventual winners in the CL semi's.

It's not exactly a terrible record. Mourinho is considered by some the best coach in the world. In the last 5 seasons he's reached one CL semi with Madrid and not got close in the other 4 seasons. He won 1 title in 3 years at Madrid with the most expensive team ever assembled.

No manager has the perfect record, but I'd take Pep's over anyone else's.

 

[Del_Bosque]

Really is a terrible manager

Complete fraud

 

[uwe rosler 28]

I just wish he would abandon pressing high up the pitch as we just don't do it effectively, leaving so much space for the opposition. With that he should scrap the high defensive line as it doesn't suit our players. Drop the defence deeper, get our midfield behind the ball and press when the ball is in our own half.

I don't think it's coincidence that so many of our defenders have lost form since policy of pressing high up the pitch with a high defensive line was introduced. Play to their strengths and we'll see them back to their best.

That would mean letting the opposition having all the ball and with the players we have that would be a waste! The high is line is right way imho! It just needs playing right with right players! He seems to be adressing our short falls delph being brought in was for a player that will press the ball the move to 4-3-3 is yet again perfect for the high line with the right balance! It seems that everything is being set up for pep next season!

 

[uwe rosler 28]

Agree with everything apart from this. For me there is a question mark against him. Bayern have gone backwards under him and Barca won the treble with Luis Enrique showing that when you have Inieta, Xavi at their peak or Suarez and Neymar with Messi thrown on top then winning the lot is possible even for a manager that bombed at Roma. How good is Pep, I guess we and the world will find out next year.

Back to the present. Today Navas, Bony, Sterling, Silva and Nasri in font of a novice midfielder. Results predictable. For me Pellegrini is a joke and I reckon he'll be gone by Christmas. Vieira will fill in until season's end.

Who else could he play in midfield?

 

[baildon blue]

Pellergrini not learning so why are we persisting with him .
Should have gone last season .
If it's toss up between Kompany and Pellergrini who i want to ditch .
It would be Pellergrini and his kamikaze football

 

[waspish]

Really is a terrible manager

Complete fraud

Yep LVG is a fraud

 

[robbieh]

I understand your point about Pep, but it's unreasonable to expect him to win the treble every season, no matter which club he's at.

First season at Bayern he won the double and went out to the eventual winners in the CL semi's.

Second season he won the league by a record margin, lost in the cup final, and went out to the eventual winners in the CL semi's.

It's not exactly a terrible record. Mourinho is considered by some the best coach in the world. In the last 5 seasons he's reached one CL semi with Madrid and not got close in the other 4 seasons. He won 1 title in 3 years at Madrid with the most expensive team ever assembled.

No manager has the perfect record, but I'd take Pep's over anyone else's.

Fair enough you may well be right and whatever he will be a huge upgrade on the present incumbent!! Mourinho's trophyless season in 2014 seems to have been written out of history although I am grateful for the result he engineered at Anfield.

 

[big gaz]

Christ do you know my mates Clarkie and Chegs.

Agree with everything apart from this. For me there is a question mark against him. Bayern have gone backwards under him and Barca won the treble with Luis Enrique showing that when you have Inieta, Xavi at their peak or Suarez and Neymar with Messi thrown on top then winning the lot is possible even for a manager that bombed at Roma. How good is Pep, I guess we and the world will find out next year.

Back to the present. Today Navas, Bony, Sterling, Silva and Nasri in font of a novice midfielder. Results predictable. For me Pellegrini is a joke and I reckon he'll be gone by Christmas. Vieira will fill in until season's end.

 

[robbieh]

Who else could he play in midfield?

Could have started with Zuculini. Garcia. I admit his options were limited and he could have expected Nasri to offer a whole lot more. For me I'd offload him now.

 

[citytill1die84]

Pellergrini not learning so why are we persisting with him .
Should have gone last season .
If it's toss up between Kompany and Pellergrini who i want to ditch .
It would be Pellergrini and his kamikaze football

You were boring an hour ago.

We get ya you don't like Pellegrini.

 

[Deleted member 58678]

Fair enough you may well be right and whatever he will be a huge upgrade on the present incumbent!! Mourinho's trophyless season in 2014 seems to have been written out of history although I am grateful for the result he engineered at Anfield.

He also got to the CL semis.

 

[uwe rosler 28]

Could have started with Zuculini. Garcia. I admit his options were limited and he could have expected Nasri to offer a whole lot more. For me I'd offload him now.

Could have started with Zuculini. Garcia. I admit his options were limited and he could have expected Nasri to offer a whole lot more. For me I'd offload him now.

It's a shame bryam is injured he could have dine a good job in there! Garcia and zucclini more attacking midfielders! I'm more than happy with our defensive mid options when all fit! I just want pellers to have some balls pick a formation and stick to it even if it means upsetting players! For me I'd start at west brom like this

hart

sagna
denyer
mangala
kolarov

fernando
yaya
silva

navas
incheno
sterling

4-3-3 and say to all the others ( bar aguero) it's up to you to force your way in as I'm not changing formation to fit you all in.

 

[kaz7]

It's a shame bryam is injured he could have dine a good job in there! Garcia and zucclini more attacking midfielders! I'm more than happy with our defensive mid options when all fit! I just want pellers to have some balls pick a formation and stick to it even if it means upsetting players! For me I'd start at west brom like this

hart

sagna
denyer
mangala
kolarov

fernando
yaya
silva

navas
incheno
sterling

4-3-3 and say to all the others ( bar aguero) it's up to you to force your way in as I'm not changing formation to fit you all in.

Fernando is not fit for the start of the season(MENS)