Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini 2015/16

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Plus, the 37 injuries.

The squad and starting eleven is nowhere near good enough for where the owners want us to be in Europe.

Currently if we have our better players on the field long enough its good enough to challenge for the premiership.

If we don't then we will fall away in the premiership as well as its clear those players mentioned are not good enough any more.

MP doesn't help our cause.

Fairly sure we would have more points so far if we had Ranieri or even Pardew in charge to name but two despite playing a " style " the owners want which to me has always been a furfy.

What they really want is success domestically and in Europe.
 
Remember last season ..exactly the same scenario..in 4 comes then limped out of them due to Pelligrinis team meddling...his constant desire to change a winning team for no reason saw us drop out of at least two competitions we could and should have won. It seems he has to justify his signings so plays them even if they aren't up to it or performing bad. De Bruyne apart his signings have been poor at best. Say goodbye now gives new manager time get a decent defender in and go for a cup or two. Just missing out is worse than not being in them after two rounds like we used to be like..feel we are heading back to those days under Mr Pelligrinis reign.
 
Reckon it's time to say goodbye to Mr Pelligrini. I feel( and not on my own) we've gone backwards under him.Mark Hughes was a better manager! Knew how to get his side to defend. Pelligrini seems totally clueless at times..strange team selections subs no plan b if things are going wrong. Mancini had faults but this guy just baffles me. Plays a man slower than a tortoise in centre of defence...Dermichaelis and his obsession with Yaya Toure who hasn't been playing well for over a year now is just ridiculous. You pick your best side for every game and try to win every game Pelligrini changes for the sake of it. Yaya hasn't warrented his place in side for last dozen games yet he doesn't get dropped? De Bruyne aside his signings have been poor...sells Dzeko loans out Jovetic ? Then panic buys Bony. Think his time is up..sack him now and maybe the 4 possible completions we are still in might result in a trophy...remember last year same situation and out due to his messing with team at home to inferior sides...wouldn't see Chelsea or even Utd doing that . Missed out on Klopp ? Sorry for rant but fed up of this poor football..got used to goals and decent stuff under Mancini...should never have sacked him!
Hang on mate, you joined today and then you say Mark Hughes 'Knew how to get his side to defend'?
Hmmm.....because Mark Hughes definitely could not get us to defend!
 
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Plus, the 37 injuries.

And no attempt whatsoever to avoid any of them or use young players in lesser or dead games to help take the strain. So much so that we have pretty much no idea which of our young players can do any kind of job in any kind of game in spite of many of them being at a reasonable stage in their development to have been given run outs for the past year more. Indeed the ones he is picking now are further away from tirst team level than some of the ones he has loaned out, because he has no option other than to loan them out, because he has no fucking idea whether he can use them or not because he has never even given them FIVE MINUTES between them in total.

It's 100% his fucking fault the squad is struggling. If Ferguson was in charge we would have ten more first team players able to step in for emergencies. Now he may have no choice but to play kids in the Champions League & he's loaned out better ones. Predicted months ago by a bunch of us fans, misjudged by our manager. We were right, he was wrong. He gets paid a fucking fortune to get it right.

Piss poor management
 
And no attempt whatsoever to avoid any of them or use young players in lesser or dead games to help take the strain. So much so that we have pretty much no idea which of our young players can do any kind of job in any kind of game in spite of many of them being at a reasonable stage in their development to have been given run outs for the past year more. Indeed the ones he is picking now are further away from tirst team level than some of the ones he has loaned out, because he has no option other than to loan them out, because he has no fucking idea whether he can use them or not because he has never even given them FIVE MINUTES between them in total.

It's 100% his fucking fault the squad is struggling. If Ferguson was in charge we would have ten more first team players able to step in for emergencies. Now he may have no choice but to play kids in the Champions League & he's loaned out better ones. Predicted months ago by a bunch of us fans, misjudged by our manager. We were right, he was wrong. He gets paid a fucking fortune to get it right.

Piss poor management
Case in point being the Hull game when Demichelis comes on for Silva when we are 2-0 up with 10 mins to go and he could have put Garcia on.

I am not sure that the long term future of City is being served at the moment. Its like he's under so much pressure in the short term that long term planning goes on the back burner.

Ferguson had a unique luxury of being fire proof. He planned for the future because he knew it was his future. As soon as he knew he was going then he stopped shifting old players and bought players like RVP for one last season
 
What's clear is the mood of the fans is at a very low point, we are miles away from reaching our potential and I'm baffled by his decisions both tactically and his playing choices. We seem to be going backwards and this should be our golden era with the money we've spent. What's worrying me is we don't present a fear factor, teams are taking us on such as Stoke and West Ham and can more than match us on their day. Successful sides can have a blip once in a while and get beat by the odd goal but we have been slaughtered 3 times this season by Spurs, Liverpool and Stoke, we don't have a backbone and seem to be lacking character and desire. We are lucky no one is taking the league by the scruff of the neck. I sincerely hope we can snap out of this current gloom and get a run going and some luck with injuries. We will probably have to make do with Pellers until the summer, we missed a trick not bringing in Klopp.
 
I have calmed down a bit since Saturday. There's no point in even thinking about sacking him at this point. As he says, we are still in every trophy. But there's no point thinking about him beyond this summer, either.

He's been treading water, at best, for a long time. He won't survive the summer whatever happens. He still wants to achieve, still wants to please the bosses. Their overwhelming goal this year is a CL Semi. Pelle is betting everything on that. And already our fate can be said to be in Juventus' hands. Not looking good, but there are many twists and turns to happen this season.

If it fails, then I think it's wrong to blame it all on him. The transfer policy has worked on the balance sheet, but of all the players bought in, just one, Fernandinho, has proved himself - he is highly useful and extremely able. Quite a few of the others don't really fit either category.

Mancini liked ego's. Dzeko is an example. A frustrating player who never quite fitted in, but one who had the character to turn the odd difficult game our way. Bony is better suited to the task on paper, but isn't doing any better for our game, and crucially, you just don't ever think he's going to pop up with a goal against the run of play. Toure is another example - his deficiencies and temperament have always been the same - but Mancini recognised them and compensated for them - he knew full well this was a guy who could win you a dozen games a season on his own.

The idea of disposing with that 'individualistic' approach was appealing, for sure. However, the execution hasn't worked. We are, if anything, more predictable in attack. Many players seem to lack confidence in launching attacks ad-hoc. They want to stick to the prescribed moves. Then you've got Aguero who just does it head down. Frankly, five goals in half an hour doesn't do much for the team compared to scoring in five games. I think De Bruyne has suffered because others aren't as responsive to attacks outside of the choreographed phases of possession.

I'm worried about Sterling and DeBruyne. They look very peripheral at times - 'small' (for want of a better word) and isolated, in a way Silva and even Navas never does. Those two look available and confident, even when Navas can't produce toffee, he looks happy to have the ball and be facing an opponent - happy to go through a few phases of possession. De Bruyne looks like he's trying to avoid ever being caught with the ball - fine to keep moving, but it looks a bit like he doesn't fancy shielding it, doesn't know where his team mates will be. We're seeing more of Sterling's shortcomings than I'd like as well. Both impressed with their defensive work-rate in the first few games, but not any more, not by a long shot. I'd also say Aguero has disappointed me in this regard. I can't recall the last time he got close enough to make a defender rush

IF it turns out we have actually kept a fair bit in the tank for the second half of the season, and we turn it on when it matters, the results are good enough so far - we are in contention. But it's a pretty big ''IF'. And 'IF' we don't achieve a leap forward in the big games, all we will have done was to practise mistakes and telegraph our weaknesses.
 
Saturday was not a good day , and i gave MP a load of criticism on here , always a problem when you post after a match , emotions are high and all that shit . In hinsight he has earned the right to take us to the end of the season , he is making mistakes tactically and in player selection , but i do like the way MP defends our players in his press conferences , despite the media trying to goad him into criticising the squad, When we get our big players back and in form , and we are still under performing ,then he will deserve some negativity , in the mean time , MP needs to keep us in the cup competitions and in title contention, and hopefully our injuries will clear up in January , and we will see the swashbuckling football return.
 
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