Discussion: Potential Pellegrini Replacements {merged}

[OB1]

We had the competitive advantage we had over the marketplace taken away from us.

Sadly, our direct rivals have been able to play catch-up and can match us this summer for players.

For this reason alone, I can't justify the retention of Pellegrini as the manager.

Forget director of football, players are attracted by personalities, and we don't have one at the helm.

I'm sick to death of hearing about fucking Guardiola and this supposed succession plan. This current City squad has beaten his team twice in the last two seasons, scoring six goals in the process, having lost another to a last-minute deflected shot from a hopeless City reject who took a swing.

We need to make ourselves attractive again, exciting to be a part of. Even the fanbase has lost that zeal, so how can we expect players to get on board?

To pass up the availability of Klopp would be a joke.

I wouldn't use the results Pep got vs City as any kind of stick to beat him with but we cannot wait for anyone, Pep included.

 

[Ray78]

There are no guarantees it will click with Klopp either. It seems we are basing his credentials on him connecting with Dortmund's supporters.

There's no guarantee will anybody , we don't need somebody telling us that he's only available when his contract has run out, he has to shit or get off the pot and tell Karl Heinz Rummenigge to swivel on it.

The season hasn't finished and Bayern are still in the Champions League. Rummenigge isn't going to say anything different.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

We had the competitive advantage we had over the marketplace taken away from us.

Sadly, our direct rivals have been able to play catch-up and can match us this summer for players.

For this reason alone, I can't justify the retention of Pellegrini as the manager.

Forget director of football, players are attracted by personalities, and we don't have one at the helm.

I'm sick to death of hearing about fucking Guardiola and this supposed succession plan. This current City squad has beaten his team twice in the last two seasons, scoring six goals in the process, having lost another to a last-minute deflected shot from a hopeless City reject who took a swing.

We need to make ourselves attractive again, exciting to be a part of. Even the fanbase has lost that zeal, so how can we expect players to get on board?

To pass up the availability of Klopp would be a joke.

I wouldn't use the results Pep got vs City as any kind of stick to beat him with but we cannot wait for anyone, Pep included.

It was more to highlight the truth is probably somewhere in between.

Pep is described by many as the only show in town, whereas, Pellegrini, supposed buffoon, has beaten him twice.

 

[JimmyGrimble10]

We had the competitive advantage we had over the marketplace taken away from us.

Sadly, our direct rivals have been able to play catch-up and can match us this summer for players.

For this reason alone, I can't justify the retention of Pellegrini as the manager.

Forget director of football, players are attracted by personalities, and we don't have one at the helm.

I'm sick to death of hearing about fucking Guardiola and this supposed succession plan. This current City squad has beaten his team twice in the last two seasons, scoring six goals in the process, having lost another to a last-minute deflected shot from a hopeless City reject who took a swing.

We need to make ourselves attractive again, exciting to be a part of. Even the fanbase has lost that zeal, so how can we expect players to get on board?

To pass up the availability of Klopp would be a joke.

In your honest opinion, can you really see him as manager next season? If not Klopp, then who?

 

[Wrighty Wrexham]

Benitez

 

[bluemoon32]

Fat Sam

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

We had the competitive advantage we had over the marketplace taken away from us.

Sadly, our direct rivals have been able to play catch-up and can match us this summer for players.

For this reason alone, I can't justify the retention of Pellegrini as the manager.

Forget director of football, players are attracted by personalities, and we don't have one at the helm.

I'm sick to death of hearing about fucking Guardiola and this supposed succession plan. This current City squad has beaten his team twice in the last two seasons, scoring six goals in the process, having lost another to a last-minute deflected shot from a hopeless City reject who took a swing.

We need to make ourselves attractive again, exciting to be a part of. Even the fanbase has lost that zeal, so how can we expect players to get on board?

To pass up the availability of Klopp would be a joke.

In your honest opinion, can you really see him as manager next season? If not Klopp, then who?

My opinion is heavily influenced by my bias towards wanting Klopp, the need to let Pellegrini leave with his dignity in tact, and the need for City to have a fresh younger impetus come from somewhere.

I have no information with regards the direction the club might be taking in this regard.

And to be honest, after the drip-drip debacles of Hughes and Mancini, that can only bode well.

I'm of the opinion City are still hedging their bets.

 

[JimmyGrimble10]

We had the competitive advantage we had over the marketplace taken away from us.

Sadly, our direct rivals have been able to play catch-up and can match us this summer for players.

For this reason alone, I can't justify the retention of Pellegrini as the manager.

Forget director of football, players are attracted by personalities, and we don't have one at the helm.

I'm sick to death of hearing about fucking Guardiola and this supposed succession plan. This current City squad has beaten his team twice in the last two seasons, scoring six goals in the process, having lost another to a last-minute deflected shot from a hopeless City reject who took a swing.

We need to make ourselves attractive again, exciting to be a part of. Even the fanbase has lost that zeal, so how can we expect players to get on board?

To pass up the availability of Klopp would be a joke.

In your honest opinion, can you really see him as manager next season? If not Klopp, then who?

My opinion is heavily influenced by my bias towards wanting Klopp, the need to let Pellegrini leave with his dignity in tact, and the need for City to have a fresh younger impetus come from somewhere.

I have no information with regards the direction the club might be taking in this regard.

And to be honest, after the drip-drip debacles of Hughes and Mancini, that can only bode well.

I'm of the opinion City are still hedging their bets.

To me, nothing seems likely that MP will leave. Really seems the club are going to take the strategy most reckon and wait for you know who which I think is suicide, I just can't see Txiki employing Klopp this summer. Can't see him moving to us in any instances. Just seems unlikely.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

In your honest opinion, can you really see him as manager next season? If not Klopp, then who?

My opinion is heavily influenced by my bias towards wanting Klopp, the need to let Pellegrini leave with his dignity in tact, and the need for City to have a fresh younger impetus come from somewhere.

I have no information with regards the direction the club might be taking in this regard.

And to be honest, after the drip-drip debacles of Hughes and Mancini, that can only bode well.

I'm of the opinion City are still hedging their bets.

To me, nothing seems likely that MP will leave. Really seems the club are going to take the strategy most reckon and wait for you know who which I think is suicide, I just can't see Txiki employing Klopp this summer. Can't see him moving to us in any instances. Just seems unlikely.

Some of Pellegrini's family are moving back to Chile in the next few weeks, but not sure if it can be directly linked.

In addition, Pellegrini, for the first time, by my recollection, spoke at the weekend with regards his future being decided at the end of the season.

Which would suggest he is also in the dark, outside of the assurances you would expect him to be receiving as we bid to nail down top-four.

 

[flb]

There are no guarantees it will click with Klopp either. It seems we are basing his credentials on him connecting with Dortmund's supporters.

There's no guarantee will anybody , we don't need somebody telling us that he's only available when his contract has run out, he has to shit or get off the pot and tell Karl Heinz Rummenigge to swivel on it.

The season hasn't finished and Bayern are still in the Champions League. Rummenigge isn't going to say anything different.

City will be working to time frames regardless of who it is, if the club is backing Manuel and he will be here next season because of those nasty players not doing as they are told then I'm sure we would know by now, he should also be given an extended contract if that's the case so the players can pull there fingers out of there arses for next season and beyond.

 

[Damanino]

I had the feeling Txiki was buying players for the 433 system but Pelle kept his one no matter what.

Fernandinho who played 8 years in a midfield trio in Sahtar as a box-to-box type midfielder.
Fernando who played at the base of a midfield trio for years at Porto.

Then they come here and 90% of the time they are played as a def midfielder in a midfield duo by Pelle.

All this is because of Yaya is a special players that needs to be accomodated in a certain way, or because Pelle wants two strikers 90% of the time and for that it needs to be a midfield duo, I dont know...

But its a mess tactically, and this season shows exactly. We nearly fucked up CL gruop as well because of it.

I think smaller teams with totally mediocre squads can get results against us as they get their tactics and desire and mentality right.

If we would get our tactics, mentality, desire right I think we could have got lot better results in last 3-4 years than what we got. And we got some nice results no question about that. But we still underperformed imo.

And I think a lot to do with the quality of our managers, Mancini, Pellegrini. Good managers but not great ones. We needed a tactical upgrade on Mancini with good man management skills, but that didnt really happen with Pelle.
Now again we need a tactical upgrade on Pelle with similar or even better man management skills. If we fail again to get one it will be another 2-3 years where we wont reach our potentials but might win a few things maybe even a league title in 3 years. (and probably nothing serious in CL as it happened so far.)

Problem is there are only 3-4 real proven elite managers. And it is basically halved by the reguirements brought by Txiki in terms of playing style like high line, pressing, possession etc...
Simeone, Klopp are not really these type of managers in terms of style. They use some of these things but not all of it. 442 can be so many things, the way Simeone sees it and the way Pelle sees it thats like polar opposite way of 442.
Mourinho we can forget that idea clearly, so we are left with Ancelotti or Pep. Ancelotti is imo a very adaptable coach, if he is asked to play a certain style he will, and tactically he can make it work but he is also Italian and could turn to great defending if needed so he can play possession based attacking football but also great counter football as well.
So Pep remains as the only real manager that matches the style we want.

Or there could be a few more but they are not elite level and hardly proven on top class level. Koeman, de Boer, Pochettino etc. so far didnt have the chance to manage strong squads that could have gone far in CL. They are maybe the next Pep but maybe they wont even reach 30% of what Pep reached in terms of trophies no matter what squads they work with later on.

And when Pep leaves Bayern which is not yet sure as he could extend a contract and stay, he will have offers not only City. PSG/MU/Arsenal/Barca at least...
We may have some advantage with Txiki/Soriano already being here, but that doesnt guarantee anything. Maybe PSG offers him 2x the money we offer etc...

 

[JimmyGrimble10]

My opinion is heavily influenced by my bias towards wanting Klopp, the need to let Pellegrini leave with his dignity in tact, and the need for City to have a fresh younger impetus come from somewhere.

I have no information with regards the direction the club might be taking in this regard.

And to be honest, after the drip-drip debacles of Hughes and Mancini, that can only bode well.

I'm of the opinion City are still hedging their bets.

To me, nothing seems likely that MP will leave. Really seems the club are going to take the strategy most reckon and wait for you know who which I think is suicide, I just can't see Txiki employing Klopp this summer. Can't see him moving to us in any instances. Just seems unlikely.

Some of Pellegrini's family are moving back to Chile in the next few weeks, but not sure if it can be directly linked.

In addition, Pellegrini, for the first time, by my recollection, spoke at the weekend with regards his future being decided at the end of the season.

Which would suggest he is also in the dark, outside of the assurances you would expect him to be receiving as we bid to nail down top-four.

It's still difficult to see the club changing their approach however and sacking someone like MP and hiring a looney bin who will speak his mind and show passion. Doesn't seem to fit the club's structure and I'm very very skeptical and almost 99% sure because of this Klopp won't be in charge.

 

[Marvin]

What I would be wary of if I were Klopp would be the looming shadow if Pep and City's connections to him.

It could crop up again and again in the future and you'd always feel the shadow

 

[fbloke]

My opinion is heavily influenced by my bias towards wanting Klopp, the need to let Pellegrini leave with his dignity in tact, and the need for City to have a fresh younger impetus come from somewhere.

I have no information with regards the direction the club might be taking in this regard.

And to be honest, after the drip-drip debacles of Hughes and Mancini, that can only bode well.

I'm of the opinion City are still hedging their bets.

To me, nothing seems likely that MP will leave. Really seems the club are going to take the strategy most reckon and wait for you know who which I think is suicide, I just can't see Txiki employing Klopp this summer. Can't see him moving to us in any instances. Just seems unlikely.

Some of Pellegrini's family are moving back to Chile in the next few weeks, but not sure if it can be directly linked.

In addition, Pellegrini, for the first time, by my recollection, spoke at the weekend with regards his future being decided at the end of the season.

Which would suggest he is also in the dark, outside of the assurances you would expect him to be receiving as we bid to nail down top-four.

It could be that he knows exactly what is happening but, as experience tells us, he is a consummate professional and can handle the press really well.

 

[OB1]

We had the competitive advantage we had over the marketplace taken away from us.

Sadly, our direct rivals have been able to play catch-up and can match us this summer for players.

For this reason alone, I can't justify the retention of Pellegrini as the manager.

Forget director of football, players are attracted by personalities, and we don't have one at the helm.

I'm sick to death of hearing about fucking Guardiola and this supposed succession plan. This current City squad has beaten his team twice in the last two seasons, scoring six goals in the process, having lost another to a last-minute deflected shot from a hopeless City reject who took a swing.

We need to make ourselves attractive again, exciting to be a part of. Even the fanbase has lost that zeal, so how can we expect players to get on board?

To pass up the availability of Klopp would be a joke.

I wouldn't use the results Pep got vs City as any kind of stick to beat him with but we cannot wait for anyone, Pep included.

It was more to highlight the truth is probably somewhere in between.

Pep is described by many as the only show in town, whereas, Pellegrini, supposed buffoon, has beaten him twice.

Probably so.

I do think Pep is a cut above but I am not exactly in the Pellegrini is a clown camp.

My personal preferences for our next manager currently run as:

Pep
Klopp
FDB
Ancelotti

 

[NQCitizen]

It's interesting where we differ, because (massively over simplifying) it's reported that you share the stance of Txiki (albeit Pep or Vieira for him) and allegedly the board are at least considering the safe hands, minimum fuss Ancelotti option.

 

[Citizen52]

Story on the Guardian now that Bayern want to extend Guardiola's contract. Although I don't think they intend to do the talks until later in the year I guess it's a statement of intent.

 

[blueinsa]

Klopp didn't come out mid season like that and resign for nothing imo.

He sent a clear message to a club that he was moving on for pastures new.

Hopefully its us as i too am sick of the fucking Pep talk.

 

[fbloke]

Story on the Guardian now that Bayern want to extend Guardiola's contract. Although I don't think they intend to do the talks until later in the year I guess it's a statement of intent.

Its pretty common knowledge that Bayern have been waiting on Pep to sign the new deal for a while, the question is why hasnt he?

Also, the dissing of City by Bayern people is a sign that they arent as cock sure about him staying with them as they once were.

Incidentally there was a rumour going around about 6 months ago that there is a break clause on Pep's contract that he had built in in case things didnt go as he wanted to.

Imagine if he were to use such a clause and move to City.

 

[LoveCity]

Txiki has surely come home from Munich with an idea if we're getting him any time in the next year now. I just can't believe a business/brand operating on the scale of City will be as amateur-ish as to base everything on a chance. BTW, I don't know whether it's translation or cheap shot but KHR said Pep "won't join a club like City".