Discussion: Potential Pellegrini Replacements {merged}

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Rammy Blue said:
Mister Appointment said:
NQCitizen said:
It'd be interesting to see what some of Mancini's harshest critics make of it (without any dig - I'd be interested to hear Mister Appointment's take, genuinely)

Even Mancini never really came close to publicly humiliating a staff member who'd been there 40 years. Was good enough to win a CL right before Peps arrival. Now the whole medical team has resigned which is a bit unprecedented and surely is a pretty monumental catastrophe created by Pep.

I think most of the people on the forum who know me well know that I've never been all in on the idea of Pep managing us. I don't particularly like his character. He's far too close to managers like Mancini and Mourinho in that wherever they go and whatever they achieve, those achievements are their achievements rather than the clubs'. There's a cult of personality which follows them around which isn't necessarily healthy.

People will say that Klopp is similar, but I would respectfully disagree. Klopp has the character of the perennial outsider. He's aggressive yes, and he's media gold. But he lacks the machiavellian dark side which the three I've mentioned above definitely have.

I know I get accused of being a fanboy because I actually respect and trust the people running our club so this will no doubt be ignored as it doesn't fit the narrative - but if Txiki passes on Klopp to wait a year for Guardiola, even if that means bringing Ancelotti in, that would in my mind be a terrible decision. Not because it means waiting for Pep, but because it means passing on IMO a much better suited manager for City to wait for his mate.

Good post mate, Klopp all day for me too, although I wouldn't be pissed at ending up with either Pep or Carlo as I think they are both significant upgrades on Bob and Manuel.

Just going back to what I said about Pep - my personal opinion is he doesn't have the balls to take the City job this summer because of the work that would need to be done and because the side isn't ready made for him. That process of waiting a year and buying players for Pep is less appealing with each passing minute.

The flipside though is that for all my reservations about Pep, if he took the job this summer, I would be delighted and I would change my opinion of him slightly because it'd show that he has some serious stones and wants the challenge.

There's so many things in play right now the permutations are frightening in the best possible way.
 
pml79 said:
Stephenhakin said:
crystal_mais said:
Maybe Viera doesn't want it just yet? he knows the outlook and has a job he wants to finish with the EDS. The pressure will be on to finish strong and secure top 4 - he may not fancy it ( Shearer was put in a similar position at Newcastle) as he feels it may not be achievable due to where we are with some of the players. He knows what's going on.

Half of you think, just going in shouting and screaming will sort these overpaid loons out. Sorry but it won't work. That Whiskey nosed c**t was getting fed up with the antics of players and was done with football at the right time.

I want Klopp (1st choice) or Pep (2nd choice)

And if Klopp doesnt come what about next season? I have a feeling we are sticking with Manuel.
Me too any other top prem club would av sacked him weeks ago esp chelsea . That report about the players being blamed n not the manager for the season results plus the other about upto 14 players are up for sale gives me the impression that pellers is goin no where and they want him in next season too

God that's depressing
 
bondsman said:
pml79 said:
Stephenhakin said:
And if Klopp doesnt come what about next season? I have a feeling we are sticking with Manuel.
Me too any other top prem club would av sacked him weeks ago esp chelsea . That report about the players being blamed n not the manager for the season results plus the other about upto 14 players are up for sale gives me the impression that pellers is goin no where and they want him in next season too

God that's depressing

Is it though. His first year hear we saw City playing sublime football with a team that was willing to adapt to his idealism of the way the game should be played. Not many were moaning then.

This season has seen a drop off in performance levels from too many players to think its all down to the manager. Some are now effectively looking for the exit door.

Giving Pellers another shot with fresh players who are willing to work cohesively again, might result in additional silverware.

Time will tell.
 
Mister Appointment said:
Rammy Blue said:
Mister Appointment said:
I think most of the people on the forum who know me well know that I've never been all in on the idea of Pep managing us. I don't particularly like his character. He's far too close to managers like Mancini and Mourinho in that wherever they go and whatever they achieve, those achievements are their achievements rather than the clubs'. There's a cult of personality which follows them around which isn't necessarily healthy.

People will say that Klopp is similar, but I would respectfully disagree. Klopp has the character of the perennial outsider. He's aggressive yes, and he's media gold. But he lacks the machiavellian dark side which the three I've mentioned above definitely have.

I know I get accused of being a fanboy because I actually respect and trust the people running our club so this will no doubt be ignored as it doesn't fit the narrative - but if Txiki passes on Klopp to wait a year for Guardiola, even if that means bringing Ancelotti in, that would in my mind be a terrible decision. Not because it means waiting for Pep, but because it means passing on IMO a much better suited manager for City to wait for his mate.

Good post mate, Klopp all day for me too, although I wouldn't be pissed at ending up with either Pep or Carlo as I think they are both significant upgrades on Bob and Manuel.

Just going back to what I said about Pep - my personal opinion is he doesn't have the balls to take the City job this summer because of the work that would need to be done and because the side isn't ready made for him. That process of waiting a year and buying players for Pep is less appealing with each passing minute.

The flipside though is that for all my reservations about Pep, if he took the job this summer, I would be delighted and I would change my opinion of him slightly because it'd show that he has some serious stones and wants the challenge.

There's so many things in play right now the permutations are frightening in the best possible way.

That's the nail on head for me, right there.

Has he got the cojones?

The plus side is that the financial shackles are off so he'd be able to get us to go big.

Nice position though to be debating Klopp or Pep, with Carlo in the wings.

:-)
 
mosssideblue said:
bondsman said:
pml79 said:
Me too any other top prem club would av sacked him weeks ago esp chelsea . That report about the players being blamed n not the manager for the season results plus the other about upto 14 players are up for sale gives me the impression that pellers is goin no where and they want him in next season too

God that's depressing

Is it though. His first year hear we saw City playing sublime football with a team that was willing to adapt to his idealism of the way the game should be played. Not many were moaning then.

This season has seen a drop off in performance levels from too many players to think its all down to the manager. Some are now effectively looking for the exit door.

Giving Pellers another shot with fresh players who are willing to work cohesively again, might result in additional silverware.

Time will tell.

Agreed. The board have been talking to other managers but they still haven't made the final decision and are waiting to see how this season pans out.
 

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