Discussion: Txiki Begiristain (2014/15)

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Helmet Cole said:
Same team/manager that won the title plus some new additions - Txiki didn't kick a ball in either season.

It still astonishes me that our best team is still our title winning team from 11/12 with the only exceptions being Demichelis for Lescott and Fernandinho for Barry.

With all due respect to those two players they are hardly Ramos and Kroos level or Thiago Silva and Matic for example.
 
sam-caddick said:
Helmet Cole said:
Same team/manager that won the title plus some new additions - Txiki didn't kick a ball in either season.

It still astonishes me that our best team is still our title winning team from 11/12 with the only exceptions being Demichelis for Lescott and Fernandinho for Barry.

With all due respect to those two players they are hardly Ramos and Kroos level or Thiago Silva and Matic for example.

Demichelis spent 7 seasons at Bayern Munich he is no slouch imo. As for Matic his form has been questioned recently.
 
I think it's becoming evident we've dropped a bollock employing these two lads from Barcelona on the strength of how good Barcelona have been this decade. Barcelona have the world's best player and brilliant players like Iniesta and Xavi supporting him as well as other top class players augmenting them. Maybe it was just dumb luck that these two chancers happened to be there at the same time.
 
hutton who blue said:
I think it's becoming evident we've dropped a bollock employing these two lads from Barcelona on the strength of how good Barcelona have been this decade. Barcelona have the world's best player and brilliant players like Iniesta and Xavi supporting him as well as other top class players augmenting them. Maybe it was just dumb luck that these two chancers happened to be there at the same time.
Soriano's doing a decent job and people should stop grouping him in when criticizing Txiki.
 
Sergi0 Na5r1 said:
hutton who blue said:
I think it's becoming evident we've dropped a bollock employing these two lads from Barcelona on the strength of how good Barcelona have been this decade. Barcelona have the world's best player and brilliant players like Iniesta and Xavi supporting him as well as other top class players augmenting them. Maybe it was just dumb luck that these two chancers happened to be there at the same time.
Soriano's doing a decent job and people should stop grouping him in when criticizing Txiki.
I'm sorry, I thought that they were brought in in tandem so to speak, I didn't know they had distinctive roles or what their respective roles are, I'm not being argumentative or obtuse, if there is information I am not aware of I would be happy for you to inform me, again I am not being confrontational, I would be happy for you to reconcile my doubts.
 
hutton who blue said:
I'm sorry, I thought that they were brought in in tandem so to speak, I didn't know they had distinctive roles or what their respective roles are, I'm not being argumentative or obtuse, if there is information I am not aware of I would be happy for you to inform me, again I am not being confrontational, I would be happy for you to reconcile my doubts.

You don't know? We got all these commercial deals beacause of Soriano's business connections.
 
We can argue about the effects of FFP, the choice of signings and who has been responsible but the overwhelming fact remains:

This squad is good enough to at least seriously challenge Chelsea for the title.

'The Barca Boys' haven't been coaching the players or choosing who plays and in what formation etc.
 
sam663 said:
hutton who blue said:
I'm sorry, I thought that they were brought in in tandem so to speak, I didn't know they had distinctive roles or what their respective roles are, I'm not being argumentative or obtuse, if there is information I am not aware of I would be happy for you to inform me, again I am not being confrontational, I would be happy for you to reconcile my doubts.

You don't know? We got all these commercial deals beacause of Soriano's business connections.
I didn't. Thank you.
 
hutton who blue said:
Sergi0 Na5r1 said:
hutton who blue said:
I think it's becoming evident we've dropped a bollock employing these two lads from Barcelona on the strength of how good Barcelona have been this decade. Barcelona have the world's best player and brilliant players like Iniesta and Xavi supporting him as well as other top class players augmenting them. Maybe it was just dumb luck that these two chancers happened to be there at the same time.
Soriano's doing a decent job and people should stop grouping him in when criticizing Txiki.
I'm sorry, I thought that they were brought in in tandem so to speak, I didn't know they had distinctive roles or what their respective roles are, I'm not being argumentative or obtuse, if there is information I am not aware of I would be happy for you to inform me, again I am not being confrontational, I would be happy for you to reconcile my doubts.
Fair enough, just see Ferran as the financial side of things and Txiki as the football 'style' and player-signing side of things.
 
sam663 said:
hutton who blue said:
I'm sorry, I thought that they were brought in in tandem so to speak, I didn't know they had distinctive roles or what their respective roles are, I'm not being argumentative or obtuse, if there is information I am not aware of I would be happy for you to inform me, again I am not being confrontational, I would be happy for you to reconcile my doubts.

You don't know? We got all these commercial deals beacause of Soriano's business connections.

That's utter rubbish, Tom Glick has had more of an impact.
 
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