Dispatches/Sunday Times investigation: Russell Brand accused of rape and sexual assault

What bearing does the fact that he openly admits to having used his fame as leverage to sleep with lots of women, have on the rape allegations? Nobody cares about how much consensual sex he's had. It has literally nothing to do with the fact that, as per the messages sent from his own phone, he has quite likely raped someone.

If we were talking about a shoplifter we wouldn't be talking about all of the times they've paid for something in a shop. It isn't isnt relevant.

Also, if you're concerned about coming across as though you don't think rape is a big deal, telling me to fuck off isn't the solution. Maybe go back and rethink your post.

It's also telling that many of the things people have accused him of relate to things he's openly admitted to doing and enjoying without prompting. Spitting on people, arranging threesomes with male friends, deep throat sex acts.
 
What bearing does the fact that he openly admits to having used his fame as leverage to sleep with lots of women, have on the rape allegations? Nobody cares about how much consensual sex he's had. It has literally nothing to do with the fact that, as per the messages sent from his own phone, he has quite likely raped someone.

If we were talking about a shoplifter we wouldn't be talking about all of the times they've paid for something in a shop. It isn't isnt relevant.

Also, if you're concerned about coming across as though you don't think rape is a big deal, telling me to fuck off isn't the solution. Maybe go back and rethink your post.

I don't need to rethink my post and I stand by my reply to you.
 
It's also telling that many of the things people have accused him of relate to things he's openly admitted to doing and enjoying without prompting. Spitting on people, arranging threesomes with male friends, deep throat sex acts.

All of those acts plenty of people will have indulged in. Shock horror I know. Some people even whip others, drip candle wax on them, crap on them and worse. So long as it's consensual and not deemed as illegal it's fine. Lots of others will find such acts reprehensible but so what?

Again he can do what he likes sexually so long as it's legal. The fact some find his sexual behaviour and treatment of others appalling doesn't make him a rapist. Having sex with somebody without their consent does. That's down to a court of law to.prove.
 
All of those acts plenty of people will have indulged in. Shock horror I know. Some people even whip others, drip candle wax on them, crap on them and worse. So long as it's consensual and not deemed as illegal it's fine. Lots of others will find such acts reprehensible but so what?

Again he can do what he likes sexually so long as it's legal. The fact some find his sexual behaviour and treatment of others appalling doesn't make him a rapist. Having sex with somebody without their consent does. That's down to a court of law to.prove.

Yeah maybe just like Jimmy Savile. Hiding in plain sight.

You should probably give it a rest.

"What kind of man was I? Treating women in this way? If this is what I'm telling you, can you imagine what's being left out?" Russell writes in one of his memoirs.

What are describing isn't legal anyway. If you whip someone and cause physical injury, even if they consented to it, it's not lawful. Because that consent is invalid when it's for sexual gratification.
 
What this highlights to me is just how quickly someones life can be turned upside down or completely destroyed by the media, i'm not for one minute saying he is innocent in all of this but it isn't as if he has been charged or found guilty of anything yet.

What if this all turned out to be people trying to destroy his reputation and nothing more, quite worrying how this can happen.

Given the influence of the media, these are some very dangerous times we’re living in.
 
Yeah maybe just like Jimmy Savile. Hiding in plain sight.

You should probably give it a rest.

"What kind of man was I? Treating women in this way? If this is what I'm telling you, can you imagine what's being left out?" Russell writes in one of his memoirs.

What are describing isn't legal anyway. If you whip someone and cause physical injury, even if they consented to it, it's not lawful. Because that consent is invalid when it's for sexual gratification.
Perhaps he is, perhaps he isn't. If he is he won't be the only one. He certainly won't be the first or the last.

Maybe you and the some of the other moral judge, juries and executioners on here should too.

Mick Hucknall has said the same on more than one occasion about his treatment of women. His regrets. I think he claimed he'd slept with over 1,000 women. Young, famous and rich. He wouldn't have even had to try. If he was Mick from Old Trafford working in Sainsbury's he'd have been lucky to have dated five women. Such is life.

Correct. The Spanner case confirmed that. It is something the police will turn a blind eye to unless serious injury is being caused and a crime reported.

Then we have MMA and boxing. Millions derive pleasure from those acts, whose sole aim is to cause injury to another and have resulted in deaths. Horses for courses. I'm sure some get off on watching somebody beaten to a pulp.
 
Given the influence of the media, these are some very dangerous times we’re living in.
It’s been very dangerous times for women to live in for… well, the entirety of human history.

If it is very dangerous times because slightly more men will be held accountable for their behaviour (not even substantially more, mind)—when historically almost none have been—then I think perhaps we need to reassess what we consider “dangerous”, why we consider it “dangerous”, and who is being included in “we”.
 
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What this highlights to me is just how quickly someones life can be turned upside down or completely destroyed by the media, i'm not for one minute saying he is innocent in all of this but it isn't as if he has been charged or found guilty of anything yet.

What if this all turned out to be people trying to destroy his reputation and nothing more, quite worrying how this can happen.
His gross behaviour was there in plain sight , after saville creeps like brand must be investigated , we cannot allow saville to happen again . A four yr investigations and several alleged victims suggests he abused his power of celebrity , the police will decide the facts , he has only himself to blame acting like he has for many years

Am i the only one who saw him on his time of big brothers big mouth , he acted like a pervy creep
 
Perhaps he is, perhaps he isn't. If he is he won't be the only one. He certainly won't be the first or the last.

Maybe you and the some of the other moral judge, juries and executioners on here should too.

Mick Hucknall has said the same on more than one occasion about his treatment of women. His regrets. I think he claimed he'd slept with over 1,000 women. Young, famous and rich. He wouldn't have even had to try. If he was Mick from Old Trafford working in Sainsbury's he'd have been lucky to have dated five women. Such is life.

Correct. The Spanner case confirmed that. It is something the police will turn a blind eye to unless serious injury is being caused and a crime reported.

Then we have MMA and boxing. Millions derive pleasure from those acts, whose sole aim is to cause injury to another and have resulted in deaths. Horses for courses. I'm sure some get off on watching somebody beaten to a pulp.

He's a rag. Of course he's guilty. Cut it off and feed it to him.
 

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