BlueMo'
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Prestwich_Blue said:
my heart bleeds for you.
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Do we really need an Official Supporters Club?
- Thread starter Prestwich_Blue
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my heart bleeds for you.
Prestwich_Blue
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I was being a bit naughty yesterday and apologise if I offended you. I have a lot of respect for people that voluntarily give their time up to run clubs and groups and I know you did plenty.cyberblue said:If people are happy joining them who are we to objectPrestwich_Blue said:LOL the brick wall's back.
I'm asking the question about the relevance of supporters clubs in the modern communication age. So instead of doing an impersonation of a third rate politician why don't you, with your long experience of the Supporters Club, give me a worthwhile, well-argued and reasoned rationale for the existence of supporters clubs answer instead of (yet again) trying to deflect the argument or put words in my mouth that I never said?
-- Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:25 pm --
Probably more than the number of OSC members that go to more than a couple of games a season.
I don't object in the slightest and appreciate that some people like being part of a supporters club. I've had some good nights at P&W on the occasions I'm in Manchester. I know that people like seeing players but all you usually get from current players is the club-sanctioned PR. I saw the Goat at P&W and he had some interesting things to say but he wouldn't have said those things if he'd been a current player.
The question I was really asking is do we NEED an OSC in this day and age. My downer on the OSC stems from the fact that they never said anything when the club was being badly run as long as they got tickets and other help from the club. If you represent fans and those fans aren't happy then I think you should make that clear to the club rather than playing dumb.
Perhaps the OSC needs to come into the 21st Century a bit and be more modern & relevant in its outlook.
Prestwich_Blue said:I was being a bit naughty yesterday and apologise if I offended you. I have a lot of respect for people that voluntarily give their time up to run clubs and groups and I know you did plenty.cyberblue said:If people are happy joining them who are we to object
I don't object in the slightest and appreciate that some people like being part of a supporters club. I've had some good nights at P&W on the occasions I'm in Manchester. I know that people like seeing players but all you usually get from current players is the club-sanctioned PR. I saw the Goat at P&W and he had some interesting things to say but he wouldn't have said those things if he'd been a current player.
The question I was really asking is do we NEED an OSC in this day and age. My downer on the OSC stems from the fact that they never said anything when the club was being badly run as long as they got tickets and other help from the club. If you represent fans and those fans aren't happy then I think you should make that clear to the club rather than playing dumb.
Perhaps the OSC needs to come into the 21st Century a bit and be more modern & relevant in its outlook.
It needs to be updated in structure and stature, importance and relevance and I am sure it will be.
dw7
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fbloke said:Do I expect the OSC to be on the list of things to be vastly improved? Yes
Do I think that the board expects more from an 'Official' sanctioned SC? Yes
Would I expect this to have been the reason for the 2 organizations to have recently been merged? Yes
Would there be value in an OSC bar or meeting place in the new site/stadium developments to help give it gravitas and meaning? Yes
Just a few thoughts for you to consider there.........
there was a meeting place inside the ground for the past 2 season and up over the club shop befor then
they are going to use upstairs in mary d's this season
dw7 said:fbloke said:Do I expect the OSC to be on the list of things to be vastly improved? Yes
Do I think that the board expects more from an 'Official' sanctioned SC? Yes
Would I expect this to have been the reason for the 2 organizations to have recently been merged? Yes
Would there be value in an OSC bar or meeting place in the new site/stadium developments to help give it gravitas and meaning? Yes
Just a few thoughts for you to consider there.........
there was a meeting place inside the ground for the past 2 season and up over the club shop befor then
they are going to use upstairs in mary d's this season
Perhaps something more official for the OSC would be better?
Not criticising anyone by saying that but it might be.
blue_bird
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GStar said:dw7 said:it maybe like that for branches in and around the manchester area but for branches futher afield and overseas its more than a ticket office
Then i'm all for that... but still, i'd rather OSC's didn't get tickets... as mentioned in the other thread. I wouldn't charge to be a member either.
Exactly. Now, for the third time of asking what happens to the money the OSC charge for their annual membership?
BlueMo'
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Yes.
Good for blues who are not fortunate
enough to make their living in M/cr.
I'm not a member of one so it's not self interest.
I've got fuckall points .
Still love em tho'
CTID
I love City more than you nah, nah nah nah nah
Good for blues who are not fortunate
enough to make their living in M/cr.
I'm not a member of one so it's not self interest.
I've got fuckall points .
Still love em tho'
CTID
I love City more than you nah, nah nah nah nah
dw7
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blue_bird said:GStar said:Then i'm all for that... but still, i'd rather OSC's didn't get tickets... as mentioned in the other thread. I wouldn't charge to be a member either.
Exactly. Now, for the third time of asking what happens to the money the OSC charge for their annual membership?
its in the bank and be used if and when necessary (sp) go to an agm and the accounts be read out<br /><br />-- Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:29 pm --<br /><br />
fbloke said:dw7 said:there was a meeting place inside the ground for the past 2 season and up over the club shop befor then
they are going to use upstairs in mary d's this season
Perhaps something more official for the OSC would be better?
Not criticising anyone by saying that but it might be.
defo agree mate
blue_bird
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dw7 said:blue_bird said:Exactly. Now, for the third time of asking what happens to the money the OSC charge for their annual membership?
its in the bank and be used if and when necessary (sp) go to an agm and the accounts be read out
and when is it ever used and what for?
dw7
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blue_bird said:dw7 said:its in the bank and be used if and when necessary (sp) go to an agm and the accounts be read out
and when is it ever used and what for?
i aint sure like i said go to an agm and it be all made clear for you if you dont want to do that pm tueartsboots he mite have them to hand he seem's to be pretty up to date with e.c. minuets etc
blue_bird said:dw7 said:its in the bank and be used if and when necessary (sp) go to an agm and the accounts be read out
and when is it ever used and what for?
Its used for a cup final bus for fans. There's millions in there now ;-)
blue_bird
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dw7 said:blue_bird said:and when is it ever used and what for?
i aint sure like i said go to an agm and it be all made clear for you if you dont want to do that pm tueartsboots he mite have them to hand he seem's to be pretty up to date with e.c. minuets etc
Well, you seem pretty sure on everything else to do with the OSC so why not this? I really don't see why they charge their members.....
dw7
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blue_bird said:dw7 said:i aint sure like i said go to an agm and it be all made clear for you if you dont want to do that pm tueartsboots he mite have them to hand he seem's to be pretty up to date with e.c. minuets etc
Well, you seem pretty sure on everything else to do with the OSC so why not this? I really don't see why they charge their members.....
like i said the accounts are there to be seen if you are that bothered about it i havent got access to them but if i had i'd let you know pm tueartsboots he may have more info on them
Bank accounts are both healthy supporters club and travel club not being able to recall figures exactly from last meeting i attended (held every 2 weeks at ground) but definatley not millions or even hundreds of thousands and its all very transparent with the last £5 accounted for and even discussed at legnthfbloke said:blue_bird said:and when is it ever used and what for?
Its used for a cup final bus for fans. There's millions in there now ;-)
mrksdawn19
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Anyone interested in joining the Kent Beanch PM me as I am the chairman.
We are based in Canterbury
We are based in Canterbury
please do me a favour & put to bed the crap on hear about tickets cheersmrksdawn19 said:Anyone interested in joining the Kent Beanch PM me as I am the chairman.
We are based in Canterbury
blue_bird
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cyberblue said:please do me a favour & put to bed the crap on hear about tickets cheersmrksdawn19 said:Anyone interested in joining the Kent Beanch PM me as I am the chairman.
We are based in Canterbury
If, and I do mean if, he was dishing out tickets in the wrong manner do you seriously expect him to admit it on Bluemoon? So no, no matter what he said it wouldn't put it to bed, Don.
By the way mrksdawn19, just using you as an example to prove a point, I'm not implying you are doing anything wrong, so I hope you dont take it personally.
GStar
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cyberblue said:please do me a favour & put to bed the crap on hear about tickets cheersmrksdawn19 said:Anyone interested in joining the Kent Beanch PM me as I am the chairman.
We are based in Canterbury
I don't unerstand... how do you still not get it?
He's the Chairman of one branch, how can he or anyone else speak for all OSC's?
There's people on here that have already admitted to getting tickets through the OSC without the required points... its already been shown to be going on so its already been confirmed and 'put to bed'.
Just wondering how there branch organises itGStar said:cyberblue said:please do me a favour & put to bed the crap on hear about tickets cheers
I don't unerstand... how do you still not get it?
He's the Chairman of one branch, how can he or anyone else speak for all OSC's?
There's people on here that have already admitted to getting tickets through the OSC without the required points... its already been shown to be going on so its already been confirmed and 'put to bed'.
mrksdawn19
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cyberblue said:Just wondering how there branch organises itGStar said:I don't unerstand... how do you still not get it?
He's the Chairman of one branch, how can he or anyone else speak for all OSC's?
There's people on here that have already admitted to getting tickets through the OSC without the required points... its already been shown to be going on so its already been confirmed and 'put to bed'.
We are an official branch
we do not have many members, and as we are based down south not that many regularly travel up north for games
I am an ex season ticket holder, with 5000 points and went to Barcelona last year and Dortmund this year. I also drove to Manchester the day after getting back from Dortmund for the Valencia game
No tickets got through the Kent branch are ever used for anyone other than members of the Kent branch.
Most tickets obtained for Kent branch members are for London games, but more than anything the Kent branch is there for people to view matches on the TV in a local pub and chew the fat