I don’t necessarily correlate negative stuff about team selection and so on with negativity in general.I see negativity (as a mentality) as a form of insecurity. Being positive means being able to put your outlooks out there and risk the "disappointment" of being wrong and having egg on your face. With negativity, you set the bar low so that if you can never be let down so to say.
It happens a tonne on here, and it's the uglier side of Bluemoon. There's plenty of positives; most specifically the excellent humour and insightful discussion, as well as the loopy Off-Topic threads.
But with the actual football, it can be depressing. There's so much negativity. It's ridiculous. I've highlighted the Burnley pre match thread lately, which was sad. A bunch of posters decrying the team to face Burnley because Mahrez and Mendy were playing, acting like we were in legitimate danger of losing.
But it's a general trend. How many times is a team announced and we have 15 pages of complaining about the 1 player in or out of the team that they aren't happy with, as opposed to the 10 others that they are happy with? How many times to people on this forum write us off? Plenty of prematch threads explain how we will lose. Plenty of posters were saying how we were done for and how Pep should go only 1 month ago. At one point earlier this season people were suggesting De Bruyne was done. How many people had written off Stones? Written off Gundogan? Written off Zinchenko? There's a bunch of posters that want Sterling gone and they vocalise it at every opportunity. There are a handful of posters that go out of there way to declare Jesus and Rodri unsuitable for the future of the club on a frequent basis.
That's why it annoys me when people apologise for getting it wrong about Stones or Gundogan. Because I'm 100% sure that the majority of them didn't learn from it and continue their negativity towards someone else.
It doesn't have to be that way either. Posters on this forum are smart and if they took a moment to actually think about things, and see the upside, they'd have so much positive and thoughtful contributions. They need to understand that there's nothing to be afraid of and it's ok to be optimistic. Sure, there are letdowns involved, but in my opinion it's better to be happy and occasionally be disappointed than to live in misery and occasionally be happily surprised. Everyone can be better if they want to be.
What you say is largely true of the football forums on here.Positive mentality isn’t always positively commenting on something. So highlighting the negatives about a player but also saying where they should be improving or offering alternatives, either in their position so we get the best out of them elsewhere on the pitch, or with better players either already at the club who can play ahead of them or who we can possibly sign as a replacement, so we as a club improve; is a positive mentality.
There aren’t that many people whose sole Bluemoon posting pattern is to log on, slag someone off for a poor game or for generally not being good enough, don’t tell us where or how they can improve, don’t mention their strengths (because they’re just coming from a negative angle so aren’t there to mention any positives about the player), offer no alternatives or solutions to the problem, contribute nothing but negativity to the forum and then log off again. This is negativity but how many do that?
People who may highlight something they don’t like about a player will often also comment when that player something well, will post their positive reactions to the players they think are doing well, or as I say offer alternatives to why they think the negatives they see in a player can be improved on. I’d say these are positive posters.
The day you start polishing turds will be time for me to migrate to rag caff :)100% but that doesn't mean i'll polish a turd or pretend things are rosey when they aren't.
Good post.I would think a positive mindset would entail not taking negative posting too seriously.
Besides sometimes there's piss-taking, like I call Rodri "Plodri" because I find it amusing and it's apt. Some people whinge on end that I could call him that, some people also find it funny.
I don't want to see Mahrez or Mendy in a City shirt, and I'll say that every time they get picked. I want Jesus to score more goals, I'll point that out when he has another goalless game. I'll also be the bigger man when Gundogan demonstrably goes up several levels and plays to his potential and does what I said I wanted him to do and give him the kudos for it.
At the end of the day at the ground if we give the ball away you'll hear the groans and "fuck off"s around the ground and on here it's just a written version. I could equally point to the same 5 posters in any thread about Brexit whinging endlessly about it instead of being constructive and bringing progressive ideas for the table or highlighting where the opposition will look to bring positive changes. Equally I could argue you're being rather negative about "negative" posters rather than brushing it off.
Ultimately, we're having a chat about it, and we live in a world where none of us are really getting what we so desire at the moment. The teams on a really good run, but I reserve the right to go "FFS Plodri" when they're on the teamsheet tomorrow night, part in jest, part because I'd rather see Foden, Bernie or Torres play. I'd say it at the bar before the game in the ground and I'll say it on here, and you're more than welcome to disagree and have a discussion and at the end of the day, negativity/positivity is only determined by our own interpretation of the other person's posts, and unless it's signposted it's rarely as clear as the spoken word.
Positive mentality isn’t always positively commenting on something. So highlighting the negatives about a player but also saying where they should be improving or offering alternatives, either in their position so we get the best out of them elsewhere on the pitch, or with better players either already at the club who can play ahead of them or who we can possibly sign as a replacement, so we as a club improve; is a positive mentality.
There aren’t that many people whose sole Bluemoon posting pattern is to log on, slag someone off for a poor game or for generally not being good enough, don’t tell us where or how they can improve, don’t mention their strengths (because they’re just coming from a negative angle so aren’t there to mention any positives about the player), offer no alternatives or solutions to the problem, contribute nothing but negativity to the forum and then log off again. This is negativity but how many do that?
People who may highlight something they don’t like about a player will often also comment when that player something well, will post their positive reactions to the players they think are doing well, or as I say offer alternatives to why they think the negatives they see in a player can be improved on. I’d say these are positive posters.
Jeremy Vine does not agree with you.A positive mentality allows you to overcome what life throws at you
We all have bad stuff to deal with is how you deal with it ,in my view