Do you support the RMT?

[Zubrman]

Much as I like Lynch and what he has to say, I think fucking peoples Christmas’s up, especially following the last 2 write offs might just be a step too far and risks losing public support.
Potentially contributing to closing some hospitality venues for good as well as some high street stores doesn’t seem a proportionate response either. Of course the threat may get them what they want, in which case well done. If it doesn’t, I’d hope they might think again.

It's not Mick Lynch who is fucking Xmas up, it's the fucking Government.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Are those the letters nobody posts anymore?

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Much as I like Lynch and what he has to say, I think fucking peoples Christmas’s up, especially following the last 2 write offs might just be a step too far and risks losing public support.
Potentially contributing to closing some hospitality venues for good as well as some high street stores doesn’t seem a proportionate response either. Of course the threat may get them what they want, in which case well done. If it doesn’t, I’d hope they might think again.

I think this announcement of 24-27th is going to backfire as you say, no two ways about it. I would think that most of the people travelling by train at Christmas are those who can't travel any other way. It's under 3 weeks notice and that's very short to hit Christmas. It doesn't affect business travel, it affects everybody else.

Like you, I think this is to force the employer/govt hands, but why should they care if they think that this one will harm the union side far more?

The only method to get from London to Preston is now bus at either silly o'clock on National Express, or Megabus.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

It's not Mick Lynch who is fucking Xmas up, it's the fucking Government.

Not disagreeing at all but the public are starting to get a bit titsed off with it and ruining Xmas will not make it less so, no matter whose at fault.

 

[Zubrman]

Not disagreeing at all but the public are starting to get a bit titsed off with it and ruining Xmas will not make it less so, no matter whose at fault.

If the fucking media didn't peddle the narrative that the unions are bad, ruining Xmas etc etc, we might get more support. The public are being duped. And they themselves get lulled into a sense of futility and acceptance of lower pay and worse conditions, whilst the companies maintain their profit-margins and the bosses get their bonuses.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Much as I like Lynch and what he has to say, I think fucking peoples Christmas’s up, especially following the last 2 write offs might just be a step too far and risks losing public support.
Potentially contributing to closing some hospitality venues for good as well as some high street stores doesn’t seem a proportionate response either. Of course the threat may get them what they want, in which case well done. If it doesn’t, I’d hope they might think again.

Definitely a mistake when it comes to public support. We are all in support but when it seriously affects people personally, that support will wane.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

The answer is in the bosses’ hands.

Very true, but the dates are in the Unions hands. Why target people who are trying to get back to family, or hit business that supports them when they are already struggling.

No trains, I won’t be spending whatever I’ve got in Manchester, simple as.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

If the fucking media didn't peddle the narrative that the unions are bad, ruining Xmas etc etc, we might get more support. The public are being duped. And they themselves get lulled into a sense of futility and acceptance of lower pay and worse conditions, whilst the companies maintain their profit-margins and the bosses get their bonuses.

It’s nowt to do with the media, just the reality that striking on such days affect many in more ways than one.

His announcement, without any media sway, just seemed like a childish swipe because he’d had to put it to the Union.

We all want the best for you and your colleagues, and Mick has handled himself well, but todays statement felt like it was out of anger because he’d been forced to put the vote back to those that have the choice.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

If the fucking media didn't peddle the narrative that the unions are bad, ruining Xmas etc etc, we might get more support. The public are being duped. And they themselves get lulled into a sense of futility and acceptance of lower pay and worse conditions, whilst the companies maintain their profit-margins and the bosses get their bonuses.

But the media will peddle that narrative and ’cancelling Christmas’ will therefore sit at your door. That the strikes are down to government intransigence isn’t to be doubted, but the dates for those strikes are in the gift of the RMT and, unless you can change the ownership of the media in the next 3 weeks, you’re just going to look like the bad guys.

 

[Scottyboi]

Strikes aren't meant to be convenient fuck your Christmas.