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And?

 

[TinFoilHat]

Offered the same deal as drivers.

Just waiting for the details with regards uplift for lowest paid grades.

 

[metalblue]

Offered the same deal as drivers.

Just waiting for the details with regards uplift for lowest paid grades.

Nice one mate. Pleased for you.

 

[Zubrman]

As an aside, here is some info for those people who think driverless trains are the future in this country:

 

[TinFoilHat]

Still no movement from the DFT who promised to write to TOCs to allow the pay offer agreed to all non driving grades to be paid out.

I wonder if Robot Reeves has blocked it?

 

[TinFoilHat]

TO ALL TRAIN OPERATING COMPANY MEMBERS


Dear RMT Member

PAY UPDATE - TRAIN OPERATING COMPANIES

I am aware that many members will be frustrated at the lack of news on the pay proposals for our members in the former Train Operating Companies. I can assure you that I share that frustration.

However, the position is that I am continuing in dialogue with the Department for Transport so that the proposals are provided as soon as possible. The delay is due to government processes.

I will update you as soon as I receive further information.

Yours sincerely,

Michael Lynch
General Secretary

*Sighs*

 

[TinFoilHat]

Now the drivers have settled out offer has appeared and a 9 day online referendum is taking place with a recommendation to accept.

Now onto the next fight as the TOCs will be wanting something back for us having the audacity for striking over pay.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Pay offer overwhelming accepted by RMT members.

However TSSA haven't put a referendum to their members until they get a pay offer for the management scabs who earned thousands covering our strike days. The agreement only stands when all TU's vote on it.

Cunts.

 

[hampshireblue]

Pay offer overwhelming accepted by RMT members.

However TSSA haven't put a referendum to their members until they get a pay offer for the management scabs who earned thousands covering our strike days. The agreement only stands when all TU's vote on it.

Cunts.

You mean the workers?

 

[Kompany Car]

As an aside, here is some info for those people who think driverless trains are the future in this country:

Just read all of that which fundamentally goes under the premise that there are no staff. What the ATO/ATP systems can do is deskill the job such that, just like DLR you don’t need a driver but instead a train captain or manager. DLR by the way is a good example where you don’t have platform screen doors (they are only in section 12) stations, it’s full ATO and in the UK. He also mention slip and slide and how drivers manage adhesion, modern traction systems on new rail vehicles do these measurements hundreds of times per second and change the distribution of power across the motored axles.

You also don’t need to electrify the whole network, but I do agree that new rollingstock would be required or at least more modern rollingstock on all routes which would lend themselves to be upgraded. Freight would be the biggest problem so drivers would still be needed for those.

There are problems with level crossings and other places where you have interactions with the public but those are already a problem with drivers present and you can’t stop a train on a dime, hence that’s why there are so many reported near misses. NR would love the opportunity to eradicate level crossing across the network but I do agree it would be very expensive.

It never fails however to amaze me how many SPADs there are in a given week and how many times the drivers excuse is that they didn’t see the signal or they thought it was green, so thank god for TPWS and AWS.