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bluethrunthru said:
why couldn't the business keep funding the shortfall? Did they go bust? My understanding is that the PPF step in if they go bust. If so the PPF pay 100% of your entitlement if you are already retired and guarantee's 90% of your entitlement if you are below retirement age. Not great but hardly a collapse.
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They would have gone bust if the PPF hadn’t stepped in, they now basically own the company. Some of my ex-colleagues no longer get an increase to their PPF pension whereas before they received 5% per annum. I no longer get my promised increase but a lesser % on a portion of my pension earned after a certain date.

There are thousands (millions) of people who are in this position, you can bet your life that Gordon Fucking Brown has not suffered.
 
joe123 said:
He didn’t want their business - why feel uncomfortable about him not getting it?
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It’s not just their business he is being ostracised from. The Bristol Trade Union Council, accepted and approved a motion by ASLEF for all members of any union in the Bristol area to boycott “pubs that are not friendly towards unions”.

One man dares to refuse a booking and the entire apparatus of all unions in tbe Bristol area is railed against him? Did he act in an unfriendly way towards unions or merely hold what he perceived as a moral stand? Glad to see the left in Bristol are so tolerant of different views and opinions.

The appropriate retribution from the Bristol Rail Workers' Social and Welfare Fund - who’s event it was he declined to take - would surely have been to say ok, we won’t ask you again. He’s then lost a regular revenue, they’ve taken their annual Christmas bash business elsewhere. The next escalation that could just about pass muster for being appropriate would have been any train union member because we could make a weak case that they were all impacted. Everything else is excessive.

I can’t really understand how anyone would be comfortable with what has happened here.
 
metalblue said:
As per my previous response really. Good to see the left being so open to different opinions, they now try and occupy a space in a binary world that has never existed - and people wonder why the unions are seen as dinosaurs.
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I don’t think anyone is stopping the landlord having his opinion. On the contrary, he was allowed to demonstrate his opinion by rejecting their custom. The union and their mates have responded with the opinion that people shouldn’t drink there. It’s freedom of choice in action, and this guy has got what he asked for.
 
Phil1 said:
But the landlord is in his right to turn customers away because he doesn’t agree with their stance and not expect blowback? Nah. You keep your mouth shut and serve them their drinks as long as they’re not causing any trouble. You can pick and choose who to allow in your establishment in this game if you wish but you won’t be in business for long.
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That’s how I would have dealt with it. I’ve no doubt, once word spread, it would have damaged his business without the need for a “directive” from the BTUC.
 
joe123 said:
I don’t think anyone is stopping the landlord having his opinion. On the contrary, he was allowed to demonstrate his opinion by rejecting their custom. The union and their mates have responded with the opinion that people shouldn’t drink there. It’s freedom of choice in action, and this guy has got what he asked for.
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It’s an illusion of freedom of opinion…the next pub landlord who dares to think about expressing an opinion does what? Keeps his mouth shut that’s what, for fear of being the next target of a BTUC motion.
 
metalblue said:
It’s an illusion of freedom of opinion…the next pub landlord who dares to think about expressing an opinion does what? Keeps his mouth shut that’s what, for fear of being the next target of a BTUC motion.
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I’d say it is freedom of opinion, but not freedom from consequence. You can’t have it both ways.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
What reason did this landlord give for refusing their booking?
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He said it would have been hypocritical of him to accept it given how his business and staff had been so negatively impacted by it. He states he told them he supported their right to strike and wished them well in their aims.

It’s a strange hill to chose to die on of that there is no doubt.
 
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