levets said:tolmie's hairdoo said:This is wrong mate, however, his leaving, could be dressed up any way it was required. Nice attempt at a fallback from the mysterious Desert Rat, though!
The owner has already proved with the dismissal of Hughes, they are not ones to worry too much re public opinion when it comes to being in what they perceive, the best interests of City.
Don't know what you're trying to prove/say here?
Nice attempt at a fallback? We had all this nonsense at the end of last season and this guy proved to be correct.
I know you work in the media, but you're no more clued up than me on this situation..
It would be open season on city if they sacked mancini after guiding us to 4th. That is not in the best interests of the club.
Maybe they are ;-) But they are the same bunch that won 2 in 11 under "you know who".sweep said:Sounds like these players are so great we don't need a manager.Prestwich_Blue said:WTF has this got to do with Hughes? He's gone and he isn't coming back. Seems like it's the "Hughes outers" who still have the problem.
Anyway - back on subject. Let's put a hypothetical question:
What if the the players weren't happy with Mancini's tactics, finding them too negative and restrictive? Let's also hypothesise that that a representative delegation had this out with Cook & Marwood and, after that, decided they were going to play the way they were happiest - quickly and not sitting back inviting pressure. That led to 11 goals in 2 games, in both of those scoring three goals within the space of a few minutes.
If you were then offered the choice of Mancini (and possibly more games like the ones away at Hull & Sunderland and the home games against Liverpool, Everton plus the first 75 minutes against Wigan at home) or another manager who was more sympathetic to playing the way the players felt happiest, which would you take?
Challenger1978 said:With the form we're in with the number of goals we're scoring and our league posistion this has to be one of the daftest threads of all time on BM.
tolmie's hairdoo said:johnny crossan said:Are you saying he was effectively sacked before the Spurs game?
You are on thin ice there, but also don't minimise the impact of our defeat by the UAE in Abu Dhabi. That was a bleak time for Hughes.
No, nothing to see there!
Forgot we had lost to Spurs as well as manure, that's all!
Are you saying a scratch City kids side losing to an UAE team was so bad? Find that hard to believe TBH.
BobKowalski said:tolmie's hairdoo said:I have not said Mancini wants to leave, the complete opposite in fact.
There are players who do not believe Mancini is the man. As for the tactics, my own opinion was based on an observation.
We have adopted a more attacking philosophy. As for zonal marking, weren't we already doing that under Hughes, also?
Albeit, very badly. And for the record, I couldn't stand Hughes.
No we switched to zonal with Mancini and with some success. I am a big follower of Doug's training reports and in the early days it was mainly defensive work, keeping our shape, positions for the zonal marking (sky showed it quite well during the match), shadow play etc. Lately there has been more focus on the offensive side with work done with Tevez and Ade and seemingly to make de Jong more of an effective attacking force (yeah I know!)
What has been interesting is (for once) seeing the fruits of this coming through on match day.
I don't care if the players like Mancini or if they hate his training regime but I do care if it is not been shown on match day. My biggest gripe about Hughes was did we actually do any f**king training because headless chickens seemed to be us on match day. Under Mancini win, lose or draw even I can see lots of elements of what Mancini wants coming through on matchday. The difference is like night and day and I do credit the players that irrespective of what they feel about Mancini they are carrying out or attempting to carry out his gameplan.
I make no pretence that I know what will happen manager wise in the summer and I say that as one of Jose's biggest fans but this attempt to twist good results into 'its all down to the players and nothing to do with the manager' is bizarre. Hell as a 'Hughes outer' even I never bothered to lay that sort of shite on Hughes when we did well.
You guys are going to have to stop reaching. Its starting to sound silly.
Challenger1978 said:With the form we're in with the number of goals we're scoring and our league posistion this has to be one of the daftest threads of all time on BM.
Didsbury Dave said:Challenger1978 said:With the form we're in with the number of goals we're scoring and our league posistion this has to be one of the daftest threads of all time on BM.
Maybe you should ask yourself why these threads are appearing every week, on every forum. Why it is the topic of discussion between all City fans? Why do the media speculate constantly about his future?
Do you think the club are aware of threads like this? Because I can tell you they will be.
Is there anything the club could do/have done to stop this incessant speculation?
Because I can tell you that there would be a very simple way to kill the speculation stone dead.
And it hasn't happened. Which speaks volumes to me.