Donald Trump

[arfurclue]

Pretty much. At times I want people to understand what it's like to argue with people who have decided before they've heard. It's how I feel a ton of time about Trump issues and had the idea that if they'd see the other side then we'd meet in the middle which is generally what has happened.

However I generally do so in such an over the top way that it's hard to mistake it. I wasn't winding any one up there. The idea that someone assaulted someone else because of Trump is nonsense.

Thanks. And I don't know if this is exactly what you are saying but...I had times in darkest depression when people were saying 'you should do this, you should just get your shit together etc etc.' And I got the point where I almost wished that there was a pill that these people could take. It would last for only a day. But within this day they would forget they had taken this pill and would experience life as someone who is depressed with no hope for the future. Even coming to know the strange fear of trying something that may help - because if that's the best on offer and it doesn't work, then you get to live the rest of your life this. After this day, then we can chat and see if you see things the same way. And I 'think' this might touch on what you are saying - I may be wrong - but if one could experience one day in the life of a Trump supporter, then the debate may change, may be less 'black and white' more how we find a way through this together?'

I'm still not particularly sure that the 'way of Trump' is the best way through this but if it helps bring a deeper unity/understanding in the medium/long term then maybe it will turn
out to have been a step that has much value? It might bring more empathy than condemnation for those that chose this way?

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Bomb to Soros.
Bomb to H Clinton and Obama (according to Secret Service).
Apparently bomb to Brennan c/o CNN.

Someone's starting a campaign. Doesn't seem a great time to do it, unless you want to strengthen one side's voting.

It's not beyond the imagination for Republicans to try and blame the Dems for sending bombs to other Dems in order to try and frame Republicans. US politics is that f*cked up; on both sides.

Whoever did it, it's a deplorable act.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Thanks. And I don't know if this is exactly what you are saying but...I had times in darkest depression when people were saying 'you should do this, you should just get your shit together etc etc.' And I got the point where I almost wished that there was a pill that these people could take. It would last for only a day. But within this day they would forget they had taken this pill and would experience life as someone who is depressed with no hope for the future. Even coming to know the strange fear of trying something that may help - because if that's the best on offer and it doesn't work, then you get to live the rest of your life this. After this day, then we can chat and see if you see things the same way. And I 'think' this might touch on what you are saying - I may be wrong - but if one could experience one day in the life of a Trump supporter, then the debate may change, may be less 'black and white' more how we find a way through this together?'

I'm still not particularly sure that the 'way of Trump' is the best way through this but if it helps bring a deeper unity/understanding in the medium/long term then maybe it will turn
out to have been a step that has much value? It might bring more empathy than condemnation for those that chose this way?

This is a very interesting post. I would add a few items:

1) Hillary Clinton's definition of Trump supporters as "deplorables" was one of the single greatest gaffes in American political history, because she equated hopelessness with being hopeless.

2) No one has ever gotten poor selling either (a) miracle cures or (b) false empathy to the least fortunate. Ever. Trump is a fine example of this (there are many political examples). So is Radiohead.

3) Trump missed an incredible moment -- the one I have called out before -- to create the long-term unification/understanding you call for right after he won. Not that Hillary Clinton would have taken advantage of it -- there was probably even a less likely chance that she would had she won. But he royally fucked up because it's in his fundamental nature is to run victory laps. Had he been able to say "winning in politics is sometimes about division, but succeeding in America once elected is about unification" and acted on it, he could have been Reagan. The fact that he didn't grasp this opportunity underscores that he's as exactly as venal and stupid (and poorly-advised) as I suspected he was.

 

[mat]

Bomb to Soros.
Bomb to H Clinton and Obama (according to Secret Service).
Apparently bomb to Brennan c/o CNN.

Someone's starting a campaign. Doesn't seem a great time to do it, unless you want to strengthen one side's voting.

Some republican nut blaming it on "Foriegn electoral influence" on MNBC. The news anchor reporting from the scene is going apeshit.

Attacking and intimidating journalists is the kind of shit you expect in Turkey, not the USA.

 

[mat]

An act of terrorism has taken place on American Soil today. He has to act like a president today.

 

[Banned Tosspot]

An act of terrorism has taken place on American Soil today. He has to act like a president today.

Why not email him?

 

[buckshot]

Some republican nut blaming it on "Foriegn electoral influence" on MNBC. The news anchor reporting from the scene is going apeshit.

Attacking and intimidating journalists is the kind of shit you expect in Turkey, not the USA.

I completely expect it in the US, POTUS has designated the press to be the enemy of the people. That’s who we are now.

 

[Damocles]

The idea that someone assaulted someone else because of Trump is nonsense.

That aged well ffs

 

[mat]

I completely expect it in the US, POTUS has designated the press to be the enemy of the people. That’s who we are now.

He's not cancelled his rally tonight. His words about unity might ring hollow later when his supporters sing "Lock her up".

 

[mat]

I completely expect it in the US, POTUS has designated the press to be the enemy of the people. That’s who we are now.

People are joining the dots...

Everyone sent these packages has been personally attacked by him.