What seems odd is people using this situation as an opportunity to bash our government, that have already condemned the actions and called for a peaceful transition of power, behaving in a similar way to other Western European powers.
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Uncle Wally One Ball
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Which is a very consequential event. Ireland and the US have deep bondsNo, I really do not underestimate it.
The UK and US are military allies on the world stage, with actual enemies out there. There are consequences to us not being a united front.
Ireland isn’t a military country and your greatest risk is pissing the Americans off.
No it isn’t, it’s literally not her job to pass comment and she will have been briefed not to stick her head above the parapet, with the Prime Minister making an official statement.It is if the ethos of collective responsibility still subsists, especially as she is charged with upholding law and order. On that basis, she is perfectly entitled and arguably required to comment on the breakdown of the rule of law within the seat of democracy of such a close ally, aided and abetted, as it was, by its Head of State.
Home Secretary, after PM and possibly Chancellor of the Exchequer, is the highest office in the land. Of course she can comment. To suggest it is beyond her remit to do so is absurd. She’s not a fucking diplomat.
There’s some very intelligent people in this thread failing to understand this and it’s bemusing me.
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The biggest risk of pissing the Americans off, in particular the new administration, is to continue to appease the present incumbent. Even Johnson gets it now.No, I really do not underestimate it.
The UK and US are military allies on the world stage, with actual enemies out there. There are consequences to us not being a united front.
Ireland isn’t a military country and your greatest risk is pissing the Americans off.
It’s less consequential than us doing so, that is my whole point.Which is a very consequential event. Ireland and the US have deep bonds
Fucking hell mate, how are we appeasing it?The biggest risk of pissing the Americans off, in particular the new administration, is to continue to appease the present incumbent.
Our Prime Minister literally condemned what happened and called for power to be peacefully transitioned.
I think you honestly want someone in the Cabinet to call him a **** on TV.
Uncle Wally One Ball
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Then youre wrong. It isnt. And why are we grading it anyway, and why does it even matter? Im at a total loss as to why this derailment has happened, beyond you said something a but daft and instead of dropping it are digging in needlessly.It’s less consequential than us doing so, that is my whole point.
AlexWilliamsGloves
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Ireland...the word you wanted was IrelandThere are strong links between the US and Eire, so that isnt correct.
west didsblue
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I'm talking about Patel who has been inexplicably doing her best to skirt around the issue when she should be presenting a united front with Johnson.Fucking hell mate, how are we appeasing it?
Our Prime Minister literally condemned what happened and called for power to be peacefully transitioned.
I think you honestly want someone in the Cabinet to call him a **** on TV.
And you're worried that if she does we'll piss off the Americans????
Shadz69
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Ah I see,because yNo, I really do not underestimate it.
The UK and US are military allies on the world stage, with actual enemies out there. There are consequences to us not being a united front.
Ireland isn’t a military country and your greatest risk is pissing the Americans off.
So because we are a neutral country we would suffer less. I don't think that's how it works personally, but this isn't a hill I would die on.No, I really do not underestimate it.
The UK and US are military allies on the world stage, with actual enemies out there. There are consequences to us not being a united front.
Ireland isn’t a military country and your greatest risk is pissing the Americans off.
You are welcome to your opinion. Xx
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